What's up with London? (riots, merged)

Betonov · 08-14-11, 05:14 AM

So let me ge tthis straight. The goverment gave the green light to use force on the rioters, but the police refused to use it and just went to contain the riots until they lost momentum and stopped. You know your country is going down the drain when the police is smarter than the goverment.
If the police would use excesive force, wouldn't that inflame the rioters even more ??

On the other note, how's London doing. I'll proabibly return next year for a weekend.

Skybird · 08-14-11, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

You know your country is going down the drain when the police is smarter than the goverment.

From our experiences in Berlin every May 1st, I would put that exactly the other way around.

08-14-11, 05:31 AM

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So let me ge tthis straight. The goverment gave the green light to use force on the rioters, but the police refused to use it and just went to contain the riots until they lost momentum and stopped.

No, the governement says they gave the green light to use extra levels of force, the police said we can do that anyway but the situation doesn't merit it.

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On the other note, how's London doing.

My kids are enjoying it, though I havn't heard from them yet today so maybe they have been looted or arsoned over night

Betonov · 08-14-11, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

No, the governement says they gave the green light to use extra levels of force, the police said we can do that anyway but the situation doesn't merit it.

So, the police is stil smarter than the goverment

BossMark · 08-14-11, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

So, the police is stil smarter than the goverment

A monkey is smarter than our current government

Betonov · 08-14-11, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BossMark

A monkey is smarter than our current government

Castout · 08-15-11, 01:24 AM

I believe UK riots point that many youths are feeling a sense of detachment from society and from their own government. They may feel that they are not a part of the society or British state in general. They may harbor a deep sense of resentment towards authorities and loath authorities because basically they feel they are shut out. This raises a question what happens to their immediate communities: school, family and neighborhoods. People feel that they are part of a society when they receive social benefits from it in the form of love, relationships, care, nurture, etc and able to contribute back to it be it in the form of time, effort and or financially.

Penguin · 08-15-11, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Castout

feeling a sense of detachment from society and from their own government. They may feel that they are not a part of the society or [...] state in general. They may harbor a deep sense of resentment towards authorities and loath authorities because basically they feel they are shut out.

I don't know about the British rioters, but you gave a good description of me.

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Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	So let me ge tthis straight. The goverment gave the green light to use force on the rioters, but the police refused to use it and just went to contain the riots until they lost momentum and stopped. You know your country is going down the drain when the police is smarter than the goverment. If the police would use excesive force, wouldn't that inflame the rioters even more ?? On the other note, how's London doing. I'll proabibly return next year for a weekend.