Red Tails (2012)

Biggles · 07-30-11, 07:01 AM

So we finally see some progress of this movie project!

Looks promising, but I hope they add more sounds to the real movie, it bugged me to hell to see those bomber crews talk with little to none disturbance from the engines...

Oberon · 07-30-11, 07:42 AM

262 pilots wish their 262s could do that.

Well...it's nice to see a plane film...but it looks a bit...well...Flyboys-ish, and I have a feeling will serve to exaggerate the myth of the P-51 as a super-weapon. (Disclaimer: I am not stating the P-51 was not good...it was good, a damn good fighter, but not as good as people make it out to be).

So, looks to be a good action flick, and it does good for telling the tale of the Tuskegee airmen, but I don't think accuracy is going to be a headliner for this one.

Dowly · 07-30-11, 07:52 AM

The combat looked ridiculous. Not only the über 262's, but check the insta-turn
the 51 does taking out the 262.

Oberon · 07-30-11, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

The combat looked ridiculous. Not only the über 262's, but check the insta-turn
the 51 does taking out the 262.

I know, I was waiting for the wings to come off...

Schöneboom · 07-30-11, 10:58 AM

Looks like a big-budget version of HBO's "The Tuskegee Airmen" (1995). Funny, Cuba Gooding Jr.'s in both versions (this time he's a major). The CGI aerial combat reminds me of Michael Bay's "Pearl Harbor".

Jimbuna · 07-30-11, 11:03 AM

Good use of CGI I thought...looking forward to seeing it

Platapus · 07-30-11, 11:16 AM

I cringe when I see the words "Inspired by a true story". That's worse than "based on a true story".

Why could they not make a movie on the actual history of the 332nd FG?

I guess history and the truth is not entertaining enough these days.

Dowly · 07-30-11, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

I guess history and the truth is not entertaining enough these days.

The popularity of shows such as Deadliest Warrior would indicate so.

TLAM Strike · 07-30-11, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

I guess history and the truth is not entertaining enough these days.

There are entire channels dedicated to that philosophy now, like...

Aliens, Pawnshops, the Apocalypse and trying to sell crappy computer games is way more important than history and truth...

Buddahaid · 07-30-11, 11:47 AM

Another possibly entertaining movie I'll never watch due to stupid CGI graphics that defy all reality for cheap thrills. This is the spawn of console gaming's action for action's sake and made for little boys to have wet dreams over. Star Wars has more integrity!

Platapus · 07-30-11, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

There are entire channels dedicated to that philosophy now, like...

Aliens, Pawnshops, the Apocalypse and trying to sell crappy computer games is way more important than history and truth...

Fortunately, I am old enough to remember the days when the History Channel had actual historical programs.

Sailor Steve · 07-30-11, 04:57 PM

Yep, the CGI looks great, the plane handling sucks. That's what happens when people don't consult the right experts. I'm sure I'll see it on the first day, just like I did Flyboys. I just hope I won't be as disappointed.

The comparison with Tuskegee Airmen is good, especially since it's the only possible one (except of course the true story). I did like seeing them start off in P-40s though.

Schöneboom · 07-30-11, 06:27 PM

I'll give it a chance, too. I'm always skeptical about WW2 movies, knowing how Hollywood does history -- the way Debbie Does Dallas, if you get my drift. As long as they got a decent writer... hey, stranger things have happened!

Bubblehead1980 · 07-30-11, 06:56 PM

I am sure the low budget HBO movie starring Lawrence Fishburne, Cuba Gooding Jr, and Andre Braugher(as Lt Col Benjamin O Davis) is much better from the acting to historical accuracy although the cast of Red Tails looks promising.

Why no one in hollywood picks up the story of the Barb, Tang, Wahoo, Halibut(extra dramatic) is beyond me or a movie about Fluckey, Morton, O Kane, Cutter themselves etc would be great.Either way, glad they are making this movie.

Biggles · 07-30-11, 07:41 PM

Yeah the planes are somewhat more agile than the real counterparts...but you can't have everything I guess...it sure as hell looks more accurate than that Flyboys movie...Nieruport 17s duking it out with Fokker DR.I's? (Which, coincidentally, are all painted in red a lá Red Baron?)

07-30-11, 07:01 AM	#1
Biggles Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sweden (I'm not a Viking...) Posts: 3,529 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Red Tails (2012) So we finally see some progress of this movie project! Looks promising, but I hope they add more sounds to the real movie, it bugged me to hell to see those bomber crews talk with little to none disturbance from the engines... __________________

07-30-11, 10:58 AM	#5
Schöneboom Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 651 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Looks like a big-budget version of HBO's "The Tuskegee Airmen" (1995). Funny, Cuba Gooding Jr.'s in both versions (this time he's a major). The CGI aerial combat reminds me of Michael Bay's "Pearl Harbor". __________________ Dietrich Schöneboom, U-431 "Es wird klappen, Herr Kaleun. Ganz sicher."

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,678 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Good use of CGI I thought...looking forward to seeing it __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

07-30-11, 11:16 AM	#7
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,380 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I cringe when I see the words "Inspired by a true story". That's worse than "based on a true story". Why could they not make a movie on the actual history of the 332nd FG? I guess history and the truth is not entertaining enough these days. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

07-30-11, 11:47 AM	#10
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,327 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	Another possibly entertaining movie I'll never watch due to stupid CGI graphics that defy all reality for cheap thrills. This is the spawn of console gaming's action for action's sake and made for little boys to have wet dreams over. Star Wars has more integrity! __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

07-30-11, 07:42 AM	#2
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	262 pilots wish their 262s could do that. Well...it's nice to see a plane film...but it looks a bit...well...Flyboys-ish, and I have a feeling will serve to exaggerate the myth of the P-51 as a super-weapon. (Disclaimer: I am not stating the P-51 was not good...it was good, a damn good fighter, but not as good as people make it out to be). So, looks to be a good action flick, and it does good for telling the tale of the Tuskegee airmen, but I don't think accuracy is going to be a headliner for this one.

07-30-11, 07:52 AM	#3
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,054 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	The combat looked ridiculous. Not only the über 262's, but check the insta-turn the 51 does taking out the 262.

07-30-11, 04:57 PM	#12
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Yep, the CGI looks great, the plane handling sucks. That's what happens when people don't consult the right experts. I'm sure I'll see it on the first day, just like I did Flyboys. I just hope I won't be as disappointed. The comparison with Tuskegee Airmen is good, especially since it's the only possible one (except of course the true story). I did like seeing them start off in P-40s though. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-30-11, 06:27 PM	#13
Schöneboom Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 651 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	I'll give it a chance, too. I'm always skeptical about WW2 movies, knowing how Hollywood does history -- the way Debbie Does Dallas, if you get my drift. As long as they got a decent writer... hey, stranger things have happened! __________________ Dietrich Schöneboom, U-431 "Es wird klappen, Herr Kaleun. Ganz sicher."

07-30-11, 06:56 PM	#14
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,121 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	I am sure the low budget HBO movie starring Lawrence Fishburne, Cuba Gooding Jr, and Andre Braugher(as Lt Col Benjamin O Davis) is much better from the acting to historical accuracy although the cast of Red Tails looks promising. Why no one in hollywood picks up the story of the Barb, Tang, Wahoo, Halibut(extra dramatic) is beyond me or a movie about Fluckey, Morton, O Kane, Cutter themselves etc would be great.Either way, glad they are making this movie.

07-30-11, 07:41 PM	#15
Biggles Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sweden (I'm not a Viking...) Posts: 3,529 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Yeah the planes are somewhat more agile than the real counterparts...but you can't have everything I guess...it sure as hell looks more accurate than that Flyboys movie...Nieruport 17s duking it out with Fokker DR.I's? (Which, coincidentally, are all painted in red a lá Red Baron?) __________________