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Old 07-22-11, 05:13 PM   #1
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I check out your link and clicked the "Holocaust Denial" link and read:
"The Holocaust is one of the most thoroughly researched periods of history."
A total lie on it's face.
Why is that so? I thought the brilliant revisionist scientists do research this period? If they revealed the myth of the Holocaust they must have done some thorough research, don't they?

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The death and resurrection of Christ is perhaps No1,
but I must say the selling of the false guilt caused by the "Holocaust" industry
possibly equals or maybe surpasses the (very profitable) porn industry.
though.
Sorry, I am just a dumb Aryan from Germany. I don't understand what you mean by the first sentence. Is Jesus' death also a lie? Or do you mean that this story (also) results in guilt and/or profit?

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Old 07-22-11, 05:30 PM   #2
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I hate nazis.

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Old 07-22-11, 05:32 PM   #3
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Sorry, I am just a dumb Aryan from Germany. I don't understand what you mean by the first sentence. Is Jesus' death also a lie? Or do you mean that this story (also) results in guilt and/or profit?

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That's ok Penguin, no need to fell guilt over that too, just read it over again real slow or as many times as it takes to understand

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That's ok Penguin, no need to fell guilt over that too, just read it over again real slow or as many times as it takes to understand

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That's why I asked to elaborate, as your sentence is somehow confusing. I had a guess that you mean the sale of false guilt by the church, but your capitalizing of Christ doesn't fit in this.
How can one understand you if you do neither explain your point nor answer a question about it?

Anyway, nice that you worry about my guilt - but sadly you know **** about it - as I only feel guilty for things that I regret and of which I am personal responsible for.

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This site is good for detailed holocaust information and evidence (including archeological evidence), and thorough systematic rebuttals of the crap posted by the zombie, conspiracy_theory.

www.nizkor.org
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I decided to try and find the Cranston annotations to "Mein Kampf" but have so far been unsuccessful. I did, however find this site:

http://www.bookrags.com/wiki/Mein_Kampf

It has some rather interesting history and information regarding the book.
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Old 07-22-11, 06:33 PM   #7
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After saying **** it sounds like maybe your "Salam!" isn't all that sincere
What's really bothering you kamerad?

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no need to fell guilt over that too,
You made assumptions here about my guilt, hence my answer, as we don't know each other personally.
The salam, was sincere though, as we have a peaceful conversation here, don't we? And no: I am not your Kamerad.


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This site is good for detailed holocaust information and evidence (including archeological evidence), and thorough systematic rebuttals of the crap posted by the zombie, conspiracy_theory.

www.nizkor.org
The site is also linked by the site that MH posted. But if someone refuses to inspect the site, because he doesn't like one sentence on it, then one can't see it.
Funny, as ZeeWolf wants us to watch a boring one hour speech by Irving, but refuses to explore a site where all the arguments from Holocaust deniers are represented and debated - not only in the trial transcript.
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The word Scheiße is part of my daily language.

You made assumptions here about my guilt, hence my answer, as we don't know each other personally.
The salam, was sincere though, as we have a peaceful conversation here, don't we? And no: I am not your Kamerad.




The site is also linked by the site that MH posted. But if someone refuses to inspect the site, because he doesn't like one sentence on it, then one can't see it.
Funny, as ZeeWolf wants us to watch a boring one hour speech by Irving, but refuses to explore a site where all the arguments from Holocaust deniers are represented and debated - not only in the trial transcript.
I am sorry Penguin I was away visiting http://www.nizkor.org/
As far as your use of Scheiße in your daily language, it must go much futher
then that if you have been living in the "New Germany"
Although our topic can get tense there is no reason to be anything but friendly and respectful.

That is my test for sincerity,

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This site is good for detailed holocaust information and evidence (including archeological evidence), and thorough systematic rebuttals of the crap posted by the zombie, conspiracy_theory.

www.nizkor.org
Hi NoenSamurai,
I check out your link and I found it interesting. But I remember, when I was
just a little feller of seeing those horrible pictures of what those nazis did and
couple of images (I will never forget) where of shrunken human heads and soap
made from little Jewish children that the SS used to wash with.
Both Items presented as evidence at the Nuremberg trials.
And this my be a little off topic but is there any "How to"
instruction on making lampshades. Because there are allot of people with tattoos now
and that might generate more curiosity in the Holocaust.

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Hi NoenSamurai,
I check out your link and I found it interesting. But I remember, when I was
just a little feller of seeing those horrible pictures of what those nazis did and
couple of images (I will never forget) where of shrunken human heads and soap
made from little Jewish children that the SS used to wash with.
Both Items presented as evidence at the Nuremberg trials.
And this my be a little off topic but is there any "How to"
instruction on making lampshades. Because there are allot of people with tattoos now
and that might generate more curiosity in the Holocaust.

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How to make lampshades from what...? If you're talking about what I think you are god help you.
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How to make lampshades from what...? If you're talking about what I think you are god help you.
Hi Krauter,
I can always use God's help when talking about any aspect of the Holocaust.
As far as the the lampshade issue, I can assure you of at least one thing
if there was a lampshade made from human remains and used as
evidence against the Germans during WWII there would be documented
evidence. Unless of course it was a total made up lie.

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Hi NoenSamurai,
I check out your link and I found it interesting. But I remember, when I was
just a little feller of seeing those horrible pictures of what those nazis did and
couple of images (I will never forget) where of shrunken human heads and soap
made from little Jewish children that the SS used to wash with.
Both Items presented as evidence at the Nuremberg trials.
When dealing with the holocaust there are aspects of it which are indeed myth, or very isolated instances. The human soap one is one example.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/techn...l/soap-01.html

To date and to my knowledge there is only one example of soap made from human fat, and that this was made experimentally.. see
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/stutthof/
The "Pure Jewish Fat" soap story is myth though.

As for the lampshades and other stuff, this covers that.
http://www.nizkor.org/features/techn...y-koch-01.html


There is however plenty of evidence that murder occurred on a massive and organized scale.

For example, an archaeological investigation of the Aktion Reinhard death camp, Belzec (warning, the contents, though non photographic, are gruesome).
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/...logical_Report
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When dealing with the holocaust there are aspects of it which are indeed myth, or very isolated instances. The human soap one is one example.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/techn...l/soap-01.html

To date and to my knowledge there is only one example of soap made from human fat, and that this was made experimentally.. see
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/stutthof/
The "Pure Jewish Fat" soap story is myth though.

As for the lampshades and other stuff, this covers that.
http://www.nizkor.org/features/techn...y-koch-01.html


There is however plenty of evidence that murder occurred on a massive and organized scale.

For example, an archaeological investigation of the Aktion Reinhard death camp, Belzec (warning, the contents, though non photographic, are gruesome).
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/...logical_Report
Thanks Neon Sam,
I read the soap and lampshade articles and I must say, the gruesome details given by the witnesses
(especially in the numerous links with the soap ) is stunning.
Then to read that these stories are lies - cast more doubt then sheds light.
Then there was the statement about the lampshades. This to lacks credibility now we have the
scientific methods to determine enormous forensic data that should be used to help identify these people.
But what is glaring with these accounts are the lack of wide spread military or government involvement that
is the foundation of the holocaust's case.
These kinds of stories are great for the physiological-warfare units that where tasked with the planned
"collective guilt" agenda on the entire population of post-war Germany but does little to bolster the
"nazi death camp industry" or death on an industrial scale, at least in my view.
Of course the images of the dead people who where certainly starved is
compelling but when you ask the question - how where the camps supplied?
The answer might be the camps rely on the railroads being the major support method.
And then when you consider the massive bombing campaign that was raging for the last 5 months of the war - why wouldn't
there be mass starvation in the camps filled with the enemies of the state.
Camps that where over capacity is some camps ten fold.
So, basically the holocaust asserts that millions where murdered in gas chambers between early42 - late 1943.
Then the US and Soviets having found millions dead in April of 1945 does not add up. I am not ready to trust
any account given that ignores the effect the allied terror bombing had at producing that insane hell that was the last months of Nazi Germany.

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That's why I asked to elaborate, as your sentence is somehow confusing. I had a guess that you mean the sale of false guilt by the church, but your capitalizing of Christ doesn't fit in this.
How can one understand you if you do neither explain your point nor answer a question about it?

Anyway, nice that you worry about my guilt - but sadly you know **** about it - as I only feel guilty for things that I regret and of which I am personal responsible for.

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After saying **** it sounds like maybe your "Salam!" isn't all that sincere
What's really bothering you kamerad?

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