Oil Crisis Temp Fix?

And here i thought that you were going to do the maths for us

No that was the OP who is good with counting

Which makes the OP's arguement dead and buried.

Could it be that the use of CAPS LOCK was a pretty good indication of how well the arguement would stand?

[Task Force]

I say the government should randomly go putting nails in the road. and pop peoples tires... Then people wouldn't be able to drive! Well... till they go the spare.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Anthony W.

As much as I DO NOT believe in the whole "oil crisis",

Ya think oil is gonna last forever do ya?

[Hottentot]

Originally Posted by Task Force

I say the government should randomly go putting nails in the road. and pop peoples tires...

Hey, that's a good idea! I'm applying at once to be a paid nail placer. I mean, getting paid to cause headache to random people around me? Sounds like a dream job!

Then I can write to my CV: "Professional Mischief Expert Extraordinaire". Imagine how good that will sound to prospective employers.

[Task Force]

Originally Posted by Hottentot

Hey, that's a good idea! I'm applying at once to be a paid nail placer. I mean, getting paid to cause headache to random people around me? Sounds like a dream job!

Then I can write to my CV: "Professional Mischief Expert Extraordinaire". Imagine how good that will sound to prospective employers.

Indeed, just think, you would be on the perfect road for a job in customer service!!!

[Betonov]

Here's on for the mathematicians:

would it be economically viable, to salvage an entire ship, sell the fuel and sell the ship itself as scrap metal. Food for thought

Food for thought

How many rusting broken down hulks are sat floating at some dock without anyone being bothered to buy it for the scrap?
Does that answer your question about the economic viability of an expensive salvage operation to raise a rusting wreck from the bottom of the sea to put it into a scrap yard?

[Betonov]

True true, but I think I read somewhere that a salvaged ship becomes the property of the salvor after certain conditions are met, while you stil lhave to buy the rusting heap in the docks

Buying the Rusted Ships is cheaper then a salvage operation.
The problem is once you buy/salvage one?
You have to move it then cut it up small enuff to scrap it.
The move and haveing a place to move it to with a dry dock is not cheap.
Add the wages to the workers who must then cut it up and all the handleing to get it to a scrap buyer.

[Betonov]

Damn, there goes another idea for a business

Someone could write a paper:

The collective analysis or How Subsim prevents bad ideas in the business world

And a whole section would be dedicated to Tribesman, titled: The devils advocate

And a whole section would be dedicated to Tribesman, titled: The devils advocate

Hey thats not fair, I would have to see what the devil had written before I decided to advocate for him or just call him a bollox with silly ideas

[Stealhead]

It is a bad idea anyway salvage operations cost millions and the oil would almost certainly already be useless after being exposed to small amounts of sea water for 70,80,90 years.They already have to extensively refine oil as it is and I think I saw on some show this engineer saying that they only end using for anything including oil about 60% of crude at best the rest of it gets pumped right back down.

The only reason they salvage some sunken ships is when they discover that they are leaking a large amount of bunker oil into the sea.From what I understand the US Navy monitors all its sunken ships that can be reasonably reached and do something if a large leak is discovered.The vessel OP mentioned was at good levels for years and was damaged by a very violent typhoon so they had to salvage the oil or the correct term would be remove it and dispose of it.Clearly the oil would be largely useless and or the small amount gained is not worth the cost I bet it cost more oil in operations to salvage the oil from a wreck than what you might get from it which would be none I strongly guess do to sea and and rust exposure.

I dont not understand why some people think oil will last forever Oh I know what it is ignorance I was the same way until I got to my first active duty base in the USAF and saw just at that base how much oil,gas,diesel,jet fuel,hydraulic fluid is used at one base and then though multiply this by every major military base,airport,and seaport on earth and then it hit me and that is not even taking into account all the trucks and trains that use oil to operate then all the cars and everything else..... it wont last forever WWII was fought partly over control of it we have fought twice in Iraq over it see the writing on the wall.

[TLAM Strike]

I wonder how much one could make from salvaging the Komsomolets? Tons of high grade titanium, two nuclear reactors and ... *cough* *cough* two nuclear bombs *cough*

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by privateer

Buying the Rusted Ships is cheaper then a salvage operation.
The problem is once you buy/salvage one?
You have to move it then cut it up small enuff to scrap it.
The move and haveing a place to move it to with a dry dock is not cheap.
Add the wages to the workers who must then cut it up and all the handleing to get it to a scrap buyer.

They do it in the cutting yards here in Baltimore. There was the USS Coral Sea cut up to make razor blades. A bunch more. I watched it dwindle everyday I drove by the berth. There is money in cutting them up for scrap. For the most part getting the vessel to the cutting yard is the hurdle. If she is not sea worthy it creates a lot of logistical problems.

At 5000+ feet down, probably a protected sight due to deaths?
And assumeing the U.S. has not already 'visited' the sight with advanced submurgables?

I see little value at this time to mess with it.