Looking To Buy My First Rifle...

nikimcbee · 07-13-11, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Pistol grip 12gauge shot gun with short legal barrel is the ticket if it's legal in your state.

I keep it barrel pointed down within reach of my side of bed.

This. ...or get a rotweiler.

Herr-Berbunch · 07-13-11, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

This. ...or get a rotweiler.

Or move to a more friendly country...

nikimcbee · 07-13-11, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Or move to a more friendly country...

...such as?

antikristuseke · 07-13-11, 09:45 AM

For 700 us dollars you could pick up seven Mosins, one for each room, though as others have said, a rifle for home defense is a bad idea.

Ducimus · 07-13-11, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

You really don't want to use a rifle for home defense, especially a bolt-action. They're unwieldly, slow and if you have even a .30 cal it can go through the burglar, through the wall, through the other wall and through the neighbor.

This. On top of that, your more liable to miss in close quarters with a long gun like a bolt action rifle, AND it isn't as fast to reload as you would like.

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Pistol grip 12gauge shot gun with short legal barrel is the ticket if it's legal in your state.

I keep it barrel pointed down within reach of my side of bed.

Pistol grip? Only if your shooting dove loads maybe. Personally, id ditch the pistol grip. Shooting buckshot with a pistol grip? Noooo thank you. is a better option.

07-20-11, 04:32 PM

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Soo... is this thread officially gone bonkers?...

I think the thread was bonkers from the oedipus moment in the first post.
Unless of course the schoolboy was talking about pillow problems with his "woman" who wasn't his mother

Sailor Steve · 07-20-11, 04:34 PM

Not funny, and not appropriate. No matter what you think of another member, that's uncalled for.

Krauter · 07-20-11, 04:36 PM

Out of taste

Herr-Berbunch · 07-13-11, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

...such as?

Any that one doesn't feel the need to be armed in your own home

Oberon · 07-13-11, 10:02 AM

Hmmm, I'm not sure what the licensing laws are in the States but what about a Garand? She's not bolt action, although the calibre of the bullet would probably suffer from the problem Steve has outlined in that it would go through the intruder and then off through seven states before it stopped.

In a pistol, perhaps the M9 would be a good choice, although it is rather modern but it has a little less stopping power than my other choice which is a M1911 (the pistol of Utah!).
Alternatively if you want to go historical, there's the Luger P08, it's a good pistol and if you put in the 19mm Parabellum round then you won't take down half the house.

I'm no real firearms expert...the biggest gun I've fired is an air rifle, but I do agree that training is key, if you get yourself a firearm be sure to join a local shooting club or visit your range often because the one major problem of having a weapon for self-defence is that in the heat of the moment that weapon can be taken away from you and used against you, so if you're going to do it right you have to do it right first time.

Osmium Steele · 07-13-11, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

In a pistol, perhaps the M9 would be a good choice, although it is rather modern but it has a little less stopping power than my other choice which is a M1911 (the pistol of Utah!).

A little less stopping power? Is the sun a tad warm? Is water damp? etc. etc.

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Originally Posted by Oberon

if you get yourself a firearm be sure to join a local shooting club or visit your range often because the one major problem of having a weapon for self-defence is that in the heat of the moment that weapon can be taken away from you and used against you, so if you're going to do it right you have to do it right first time.

+1

Schroeder · 07-13-11, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Alternatively if you want to go historical, there's the Luger P08, it's a good pistol and if you put in the 19mm Parabellum round then you won't take down half the house.

9 mm still has a lot of penetration power. They can go through thin walls and kill bystanders. We had that here during a police raid a couple of years ago IIRC.

RickC Sniper · 07-13-11, 11:25 AM

Sounds like you need two guns.

A military style bolt action would be fun at the range, but a sad choice for home defense.

Get a short barrel pump shotgun or a handgun for home defense. And don't keep it by the TV or under the pillow!!!

If the cost of rare ammo was no issue, then the cost of two guns shouldn't be either.

Penguin · 07-13-11, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Rifles are good for long-range shooting. Up close they make a handy club, but a baseball bat is better.

Well a baseball bat might look impressive to the attacker, but it is not the best choice in close-combat situations as they would happen in your home. I prefer to have an expandable baton here - my baseball bat is just decoration - until I start playing again - or participate in commercials

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

9 mm still has a lot of penetration power. They can go through thin walls and kill bystanders. We had that here during a police raid a couple of years ago IIRC.

correct, another thing the German police had with the full metal jacket 9mm Parabellum is that the bullet lacks manstopping power, as it doesn't deform in soft targets and goes through the body. This often resulted into firing several shots, where the target is stopped but likely bleeds to death. This has changed in the last years, as now more states allow hollow-point bullets for the police.
So if this ammo is legal where you live, this would be the choice for home defense.

Krauter · 07-13-11, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Any that one doesn't feel the need to be armed in your own home

Come to Canada

Where it's too cold to rob your neighbour, and even if you did, the snowstorms would ensure you don't get away

07-20-11, 04:34 PM	#7
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RickC Sniper Undetectable Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,221 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	Sounds like you need two guns. A military style bolt action would be fun at the range, but a sad choice for home defense. Get a short barrel pump shotgun or a handgun for home defense. And don't keep it by the TV or under the pillow!!! If the cost of rare ammo was no issue, then the cost of two guns shouldn't be either. __________________ Support Subsim http://www.subsim.com/store.html

07-13-11, 09:45 AM	#4
antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	For 700 us dollars you could pick up seven Mosins, one for each room, though as others have said, a rifle for home defense is a bad idea.

07-13-11, 10:02 AM	#10
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Hmmm, I'm not sure what the licensing laws are in the States but what about a Garand? She's not bolt action, although the calibre of the bullet would probably suffer from the problem Steve has outlined in that it would go through the intruder and then off through seven states before it stopped. In a pistol, perhaps the M9 would be a good choice, although it is rather modern but it has a little less stopping power than my other choice which is a M1911 (the pistol of Utah!). Alternatively if you want to go historical, there's the Luger P08, it's a good pistol and if you put in the 19mm Parabellum round then you won't take down half the house. I'm no real firearms expert...the biggest gun I've fired is an air rifle, but I do agree that training is key, if you get yourself a firearm be sure to join a local shooting club or visit your range often because the one major problem of having a weapon for self-defence is that in the heat of the moment that weapon can be taken away from you and used against you, so if you're going to do it right you have to do it right first time.