[REL] 3D TDC and Radar Range Unit - Page 31

razark · 07-01-11, 09:46 PM

I have been having a problem with the radar, and I have no indication it's related to this mod, but it's worth a shot. I've noticed no pattern with it, except maybe it occurs after I've been on patrol for a while.

Sometimes, I'll be patrolling along, and my crew will not alert me to any radar contact. I'll suddenly drop out of time compression, with the "We're under attack! We're taking damage!" messages, as shells are falling all around me. I'll look around and have a destroyer charging at me, or a Maru weaving back and forth. Checking the radar clearly shows the contact, but the game acts like it's not even there.

Anyone familiar with this issue? As I said, no pattern. It's not any one particular ship, and I've seen it happen, and a little while later, on my way back to base for the inevitable repairs, I'll get a radar contact reported on the exact same class of ship. I've never seen it happen with aircraft, though.

Nisgeis · 07-02-11, 03:53 AM

The crew does not see what the radar does, as they are modelled as two seperate systems. This is also why people complain that they can hear something on the hydrophone, but their crew can't.

I think also the game uses a simplified system for detection when you TC, so let's say that the game is constantly checking when in TC 1, at higher TCs it time slices the checks and doesn't move your sub through all the points on the line. If you were going at high TC, then the game 'moves' your sub along your course by however many yards or miles you would have travelled in that time. I think the faster your PC the more time slices it does (but I have no proof) so the jerkier your PC gets the worse the detection will be. If you are 20 miles away from a TF and it moves your sub 10 miles in one time slice then when it checks that position it will create the TF and place you 10 miles from it. But it only drops TC when the ships get in range that your crew or the enemy crew can see you and then it drops to TC 1.

Ducimus will be able to tell you all able the sensors and what tricks they play. I'm just a simple S3D jockey.

Nisgeis · 07-02-11, 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Channing

Never even tried to hit a fast moving target.

Of course, if I had a "Distance to Track" readout...

Soon (TM)! I think the British system for range to track may be better than the US version, so I'm wondering whether to do it historically accurate, or more useful. The US version only goes up to 8,000 yards due to the design and the Biritsh version goes up to more range but might be harder to read.

John Channing · 07-02-11, 07:32 AM

Might as well go accurate.

Otherwise I am going to start harrassing you for the innacurate SD/SJ radar range mod too!

Plus an SJ/TDC digital range readout greater than 9,999 would be nice...

JCC

Nisgeis · 07-24-11, 04:14 PM

Got a quick question regarding the use of the mod. Do people use the generated dials (the green dials) for range and bearing, or are they superfluous?

razark · 07-24-11, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nisgeis

Got a quick question regarding the use of the mod. Do people use the generated dials (the green dials) for range and bearing, or are they superfluous?

Are you referring to the dials at the radar station?

If so, I never use those dials. I find them too hard to read under red lighting, so I've gotten to the point that I will just ignore them.

I'm goin' down · 07-24-11, 10:32 PM

I saw the 3D TDC radar range unit as it flashed on the screen in Run Silent Run Deep. The movie must have copied Nisgeis' mod.

John Channing · 07-30-11, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nisgeis

Got a quick question regarding the use of the mod. Do people use the generated dials (the green dials) for range and bearing, or are they superfluous?

Use them.

JC

berobispo · 01-04-12, 06:22 PM

I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but is there any chance to disable the 3d tdc in order to free some cpu? I really like the radar ranging tool, but the conning tower fps are terribly low on my rig...

EDIT: btw, I'm running TMO2.5 at the moment, like OTC so maybe waiting for CapnScurvy to publish an update of OTC will do the trick anyway=)

mido · 01-16-12, 11:18 AM

Is there a version which works with RFB + RSRDC? Sorry for the question but there is no README in the download.

Roger Dodger · 01-16-12, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I'm goin' down

I saw the 3D TDC radar range unit as it flashed on the screen in Run Silent Run Deep. The movie must have copied Nisgeis' mod.

There's also a pretty good shot of the TDC in the mini-series "War and Remembrance" ("Winds of War" part 2). Also, the S-Boat was featured in "Winds of War" (part 1), as well as "U-571". You don't see S-Boats very often.

Bubblehead1980 · 01-16-12, 07:50 PM

Think we could get a 23 TDC for the porpoise control room that works with TMO 2.5. Radar would be nice also but would settle for the 3-D TDC.

Egan · 01-18-12, 04:27 PM

I've just come back to SH4 after two or three years since I last played it and discovered this mod as part of TMO.

Wow.

That is all.

One thing, is there a hot key or something to take you to the TDC screen quickly?

evrolicious2 · 03-27-12, 08:45 PM

just installed this mod and loving it! although i'm having a pretty serious ctd issue with it. when playing without the mod everything goes fine, but i've noticed that when i have the mod installed if my boat takes any damage then i instantly get a ctd. i've tried this in stock 1.4 version of the game and in TMO for 1.4. any help would be greatly appreciated. i dont wanna go back to playing without this!

razark · 03-27-12, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evrolicious2

...stock 1.4 version...
TMO for 1.4.

Upgrade to 1.5.

1.5 changed a lot of stuff, and that means most mods won't work with 1.4.

07-01-11, 09:46 PM	#451
razark Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,731 Downloads: 393 Uploads: 12	I have been having a problem with the radar, and I have no indication it's related to this mod, but it's worth a shot. I've noticed no pattern with it, except maybe it occurs after I've been on patrol for a while. Sometimes, I'll be patrolling along, and my crew will not alert me to any radar contact. I'll suddenly drop out of time compression, with the "We're under attack! We're taking damage!" messages, as shells are falling all around me. I'll look around and have a destroyer charging at me, or a Maru weaving back and forth. Checking the radar clearly shows the contact, but the game acts like it's not even there. Anyone familiar with this issue? As I said, no pattern. It's not any one particular ship, and I've seen it happen, and a little while later, on my way back to base for the inevitable repairs, I'll get a radar contact reported on the exact same class of ship. I've never seen it happen with aircraft, though. __________________ "Never ask a World War II history buff for a 'final solution' to your problem!"

07-02-11, 03:53 AM	#452
Nisgeis Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,909 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 11	The crew does not see what the radar does, as they are modelled as two seperate systems. This is also why people complain that they can hear something on the hydrophone, but their crew can't. I think also the game uses a simplified system for detection when you TC, so let's say that the game is constantly checking when in TC 1, at higher TCs it time slices the checks and doesn't move your sub through all the points on the line. If you were going at high TC, then the game 'moves' your sub along your course by however many yards or miles you would have travelled in that time. I think the faster your PC the more time slices it does (but I have no proof) so the jerkier your PC gets the worse the detection will be. If you are 20 miles away from a TF and it moves your sub 10 miles in one time slice then when it checks that position it will create the TF and place you 10 miles from it. But it only drops TC when the ships get in range that your crew or the enemy crew can see you and then it drops to TC 1. Ducimus will be able to tell you all able the sensors and what tricks they play. I'm just a simple S3D jockey. __________________ -------------------------------- This space left intentionally blank.

07-24-11, 04:14 PM	#455
Nisgeis Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,909 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 11	Got a quick question regarding the use of the mod. Do people use the generated dials (the green dials) for range and bearing, or are they superfluous? __________________ -------------------------------- This space left intentionally blank.

01-16-12, 07:50 PM	#462
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,128 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	Think we could get a 23 TDC for the porpoise control room that works with TMO 2.5. Radar would be nice also but would settle for the 3-D TDC. Last edited by Bubblehead1980; 01-18-12 at 06:10 PM.

07-02-11, 07:32 AM	#454
John Channing Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 1998 Posts: 1,846 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 5	Might as well go accurate. Otherwise I am going to start harrassing you for the innacurate SD/SJ radar range mod too! Plus an SJ/TDC digital range readout greater than 9,999 would be nice... JCC

07-24-11, 10:32 PM	#457
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	I saw the 3D TDC radar range unit as it flashed on the screen in Run Silent Run Deep. The movie must have copied Nisgeis' mod.

01-04-12, 06:22 PM	#459
berobispo Helmsman Join Date: May 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 102 Downloads: 174 Uploads: 4	I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but is there any chance to disable the 3d tdc in order to free some cpu? I really like the radar ranging tool, but the conning tower fps are terribly low on my rig... EDIT: btw, I'm running TMO2.5 at the moment, like OTC so maybe waiting for CapnScurvy to publish an update of OTC will do the trick anyway=)

01-16-12, 11:18 AM	#460
mido Engineer Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Dominican Republic Posts: 203 Downloads: 191 Uploads: 1	Is there a version which works with RFB + RSRDC? Sorry for the question but there is no README in the download.

01-18-12, 04:27 PM	#463
Egan Admiral Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	I've just come back to SH4 after two or three years since I last played it and discovered this mod as part of TMO. Wow. That is all. One thing, is there a hot key or something to take you to the TDC screen quickly?

03-27-12, 08:45 PM	#464
evrolicious2 Nub Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	just installed this mod and loving it! although i'm having a pretty serious ctd issue with it. when playing without the mod everything goes fine, but i've noticed that when i have the mod installed if my boat takes any damage then i instantly get a ctd. i've tried this in stock 1.4 version of the game and in TMO for 1.4. any help would be greatly appreciated. i dont wanna go back to playing without this!