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Old 06-27-11, 03:13 PM   #1
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the german ubi forum is no reference. so just dont care...



your work is great. and stieblers also!!!
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Old 06-27-11, 03:56 PM   #2
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While it took about 6 months for my hardcode fixes to be mentioned in the german ubi forum for the first time, Stieblers Surrender Fix is already discussed there at the day of release. I have to think about that
While I'm pretty sure that this patch of yours is on the legal side of things, the less UBI knows about it, the better. (Even if I'm alomost sure that they would not do anything against it, as SH in general and SH3 in particular is as good as dead for them)
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Old 06-28-11, 02:13 AM   #3
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No no, you got it wrong.
Your surrender patch does not work with any unpatched sh3.exe but it does with the inofficial NoDVD sh3.exe which was previously patched to h.sie's V15G1 mod [this is what Hitman asked].

Do you understand what I [and Hitman] mean?

The version of starting sh3.exe doesn't matter anymore since the outcoming sh3.exe is always identic...
Sorry, my error for not understanding you. That (always using Hsie's V15G1 patch) is how I thought it was supposed to be originally!

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Actually, the work of H.sie (especially) and to a lesser extent of myself, must be giving SH3 a new lease of commercial life, since it is obvious that many previous owners of SH3 are buying new, SF-free, DVD versions of SH3 especially to use H.sie's patches. H.sie's distribution method (patching the user's legitimately owned copy of sh3.exe) ensures that Ubisoft is losing no sales from our work.

This work can hardly be subtracting sales from SH5 either. Indeed, one very interesting feature of the dual existence of SH3 and SH5 is that it has polarised the U-boat simulation fraternity into two camps:
Those who want spectacular graphics, and associated modders, go to SH5.
Those who want excellent game-play/realism, and associated modders, go to SH3.
There are a few well known modders, eg The Dark Wraith, Privateer and some ship-builders such as Rowi, who have a foot in both camps (to the benefit of both), but they are rare.

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Old 06-28-11, 02:29 AM   #4
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Actually, the work of H.sie (especially) and to a lesser extent of myself, must be giving SH3 a new lease of commercial life, since it is obvious that many previous owners of SH3 are buying new, SF-free, DVD versions of SH3 especially to use H.sie's patches. H.sie's distribution method (patching the user's legitimately owned copy of sh3.exe) ensures that Ubisoft is losing no sales from our work.
I know, those are he reasons we already agreeded upon, but then again try convincing a lawyer about it ...
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Old 06-28-11, 02:43 AM   #5
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I know, those are he reasons we already agreeded upon, but then again try convincing a lawyer about it ..
True.

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Old 06-28-11, 10:26 AM   #6
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thank you very much Stiebler ! very nice mod
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Old 06-28-11, 11:54 AM   #7
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this is cool! excellent work stiebler
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