First time I got mad at SHIII for the first time since release

vodkaphile · 06-24-11, 12:29 PM

I mean honestly mad where I quit playing and started playing SHIV then still being mad turned off the pc and went to bed lol.

Maybe extremely frustrated is a better word.

Heres the situation;

Lead Destroyer, Troop Transport and Aux Cruiser hdg 90

Extremely rough seas but I managed to get decent information. So I was pretty positive on the ranges, speeds, bearings etc.

Saved before I attacked just because SHIII has been crashy lately (need to review my mods)

First attempt fired spread missed intended ship but hit aux cruiser, sunk...all was fine.... sunk 3 more ships later on and game crashed near Germany on my way home. (Does that mostly when I switching from 4k+ TC to normal RT).

Anyway so I'm annoyed.

I reload the game and have all the info still at had due to the notebook and pencil on my desk. I know I had to have mad errors somewhere due to my first attempt so I re-evaluate, get the same info returned....so I decide to estimate a bit, increase speed. etc, miss...reload game...more estimating...miss....reload game, take more time to gather more data....fire...torpedo detonated early and they started zig-zagging....reloaded game.....said ok.....ill basically do the fast 90 method....spead ahead of them got in perfect firing position perfect range....miss!! I went on to do this about 5 more times before I was disgusted and shut the game down.

Now normally I don't reload over and over like that...if I miss I miss etc.. but feeling slightly cheated by the games crashing nearly upon entering port... I reloaded. Being already irritated, i wasnt gonna miss targets that I'd already hit.

Hell I don't even feel like logging in today, maybe I'll nix that mission and move on.

SH3/4 and 5 have all had frustrating moments but GRRR!!!

Rant off....

Sorry.

Sailor Steve · 06-24-11, 01:24 PM

Yes, that is frustrating. I once worked for hours on a game for a friend, only to have an electrical storm zap the power, and I hadn't remembered to save it. Today I live by the slogan "Save early, save often. Save, save, save. Then save again."

BossMark · 06-24-11, 01:45 PM

Yes I learnt the hard way as well about saving often, made it nearly all the way home after sinking nearly 30,000 tons of allied shipping only to get depth charged by 2 Destroyers.

06-24-11, 03:46 PM

T'is better to save after important events, than before.
Good or bad, I don't want to have to do it again.
I feel your anger & frustration, It's justified.

06-24-11, 04:03 PM

Times like that have made me wonder if there is not a variable at work
we are not aware of.

You can repeat a save, do the exact samethings everytime and get different results also!

HW3 · 06-24-11, 11:19 PM

That's why the first chance I get after a sinking, I make a save.

Sailor Steve · 06-24-11, 11:37 PM

The thing I find most irritating of all is when I hit 'Save' and then the game crashes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossMark

Yes I learnt the hard way as well about saving often, made it nearly all the way home after sinking nearly 30,000 tons of allied shipping only to get depth charged by 2 Destroyers.

I would consider that Dead Is Dead and end the career. I only save to protect against game crashes. But that's just me.

danasan · 06-25-11, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

Times like that have made me wonder if there is not a variable at work
we are not aware of.

You can repeat a save, do the exact samethings everytime and get different results also!

I am pretty sure there is such a variable. I have no evidence, but subjectively speaking... I am working on a single mission called "Denmarkstrait"

After several "load it and try it out, save it here and there" there is no other explanation for the results I get...

Jimbuna · 06-25-11, 04:25 AM

I save semi-regularly during travelling and ALWAYS after anything I consider to be a significant event.

I've not had any save/crash problems for a while but that doesn't make me complacent because I still remember the other side of the coin well.

Paulski · 06-25-11, 04:59 AM

Sh3 seems to be the only game where I never ever got mad, and started shouting

When something "bad" happens, I'm, just disappointed, or annoyed, but never mad

I save regularly during patrol, and lately I have started saving to 2 different save files, and alternate between them any time I save. So when my last save game is corrupt or whatever, I try rhe one before that.

But I have had only 2 that a save file was corrupt. But I also had once that when I floaded the game crashed, but when I tried it a second time, everything was ok.

BossMark · 06-25-11, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I would consider that Dead Is Dead and end the career. I only save to protect against game crashes. But that's just me.

Just started a new career with this it seems or is more realistic.

Kapt Z · 06-27-11, 07:49 AM

We've all been there....

Whenever someone posts a poll about what they want for the next SH sim I always say 'wolfpacks, dynamic campaign....etc' the same old stuff. I think what I would really like is the ability to save the game without problems at any point, no restrictions.

Now that would be something....

sublynx · 06-27-11, 12:05 PM

I haven't had a crashed save game now for something like 30 saves. One of those saves was even a submerged save. I believe the change for better (I used to crash very often) was caused by the fact that I unchecked the read-only attribute of all SH3 files and SH3 save files. I have no clue why that would help but I have noticed before that the saves of old games (like Panzer General 2) won't work in newer versions of Windows if the save game file is marked read-only.

Another thing that might help is having lots of memory to spare. I only run a few mods (SH3+GWX+SH3Commander+Hsie's and Siebler's realism mod).

06-28-11, 10:21 AM

I've not had any crashes as yet, only on my second trip of a career using GWX, but did have a fright on return from my first trip.
I was returning to Whilmshaven, arriving under cover of darkness, when the shore batteries opened up on me & killed 4 of my deck crew

I've heard of 'Friendly Fire' by Americans, but these are German, What the @#*@ is going on there ?

Jimbuna · 06-28-11, 11:30 AM

You must have sunk a German ship without realising...any neutral or friendly country you fire on will automatically treat you as an enemy for the 24 hour period after said attack.

06-24-11, 12:29 PM	#1
vodkaphile Torpedoman Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Louisiana, USA Posts: 115 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	First time I got mad at SHIII for the first time since release I mean honestly mad where I quit playing and started playing SHIV then still being mad turned off the pc and went to bed lol. Maybe extremely frustrated is a better word. Heres the situation; Lead Destroyer, Troop Transport and Aux Cruiser hdg 90 Extremely rough seas but I managed to get decent information. So I was pretty positive on the ranges, speeds, bearings etc. Saved before I attacked just because SHIII has been crashy lately (need to review my mods) First attempt fired spread missed intended ship but hit aux cruiser, sunk...all was fine.... sunk 3 more ships later on and game crashed near Germany on my way home. (Does that mostly when I switching from 4k+ TC to normal RT). Anyway so I'm annoyed. I reload the game and have all the info still at had due to the notebook and pencil on my desk. I know I had to have mad errors somewhere due to my first attempt so I re-evaluate, get the same info returned....so I decide to estimate a bit, increase speed. etc, miss...reload game...more estimating...miss....reload game, take more time to gather more data....fire...torpedo detonated early and they started zig-zagging....reloaded game.....said ok.....ill basically do the fast 90 method....spead ahead of them got in perfect firing position perfect range....miss!! I went on to do this about 5 more times before I was disgusted and shut the game down. Now normally I don't reload over and over like that...if I miss I miss etc.. but feeling slightly cheated by the games crashing nearly upon entering port... I reloaded. Being already irritated, i wasnt gonna miss targets that I'd already hit. Hell I don't even feel like logging in today, maybe I'll nix that mission and move on. SH3/4 and 5 have all had frustrating moments but GRRR!!! Rant off.... Sorry. __________________ -VP Missing targets since 1990.

06-24-11, 01:24 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Yes, that is frustrating. I once worked for hours on a game for a friend, only to have an electrical storm zap the power, and I hadn't remembered to save it. Today I live by the slogan "Save early, save often. Save, save, save. Then save again." __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

06-24-11, 01:45 PM	#3
BossMark Fleet Admiral Join Date: May 2011 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 15,272 Downloads: 278 Uploads: 0	Yes I learnt the hard way as well about saving often, made it nearly all the way home after sinking nearly 30,000 tons of allied shipping only to get depth charged by 2 Destroyers. __________________ Never trust the Tories look what Thatcher and Major did in the 80s and 90s and look what the wicked witch May is doing now doing now

06-24-11, 11:19 PM	#6
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,575 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	That's why the first chance I get after a sinking, I make a save. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

06-25-11, 04:25 AM	#9
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,575 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I save semi-regularly during travelling and ALWAYS after anything I consider to be a significant event. I've not had any save/crash problems for a while but that doesn't make me complacent because I still remember the other side of the coin well. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

06-24-11, 03:46 PM	#4
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	T'is better to save after important events, than before. Good or bad, I don't want to have to do it again. I feel your anger & frustration, It's justified.

06-24-11, 04:03 PM	#5
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Times like that have made me wonder if there is not a variable at work we are not aware of. You can repeat a save, do the exact samethings everytime and get different results also!

06-25-11, 04:59 AM	#10
Paulski A-ganger Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 74 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	Sh3 seems to be the only game where I never ever got mad, and started shouting When something "bad" happens, I'm, just disappointed, or annoyed, but never mad I save regularly during patrol, and lately I have started saving to 2 different save files, and alternate between them any time I save. So when my last save game is corrupt or whatever, I try rhe one before that. But I have had only 2 that a save file was corrupt. But I also had once that when I floaded the game crashed, but when I tried it a second time, everything was ok.

06-27-11, 07:49 AM	#12
Kapt Z Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ...somewhere in the swamps of Jersey. Posts: 909 Downloads: 157 Uploads: 0	We've all been there.... Whenever someone posts a poll about what they want for the next SH sim I always say 'wolfpacks, dynamic campaign....etc' the same old stuff. I think what I would really like is the ability to save the game without problems at any point, no restrictions. Now that would be something.... __________________ ...I fought in many guises, many names, but always me. Patton

06-27-11, 12:05 PM	#13
sublynx Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: In the conning tower of my VIIC scanning the sea through the periscope Posts: 1,698 Downloads: 173 Uploads: 7	I haven't had a crashed save game now for something like 30 saves. One of those saves was even a submerged save. I believe the change for better (I used to crash very often) was caused by the fact that I unchecked the read-only attribute of all SH3 files and SH3 save files. I have no clue why that would help but I have noticed before that the saves of old games (like Panzer General 2) won't work in newer versions of Windows if the save game file is marked read-only. Another thing that might help is having lots of memory to spare. I only run a few mods (SH3+GWX+SH3Commander+Hsie's and Siebler's realism mod). __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] NYGM+H.sie v16+Stiebler 4C+MaGui WS

06-28-11, 10:21 AM	#14
Twin Screws Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I've not had any crashes as yet, only on my second trip of a career using GWX, but did have a fright on return from my first trip. I was returning to Whilmshaven, arriving under cover of darkness, when the shore batteries opened up on me & killed 4 of my deck crew I've heard of 'Friendly Fire' by Americans, but these are German, What the @#*@ is going on there ?

06-28-11, 11:30 AM	#15
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,575 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	You must have sunk a German ship without realising...any neutral or friendly country you fire on will automatically treat you as an enemy for the 24 hour period after said attack. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!