Warning Touchy subject: Dambusters dog is now called Digger not Nigga

Herr-Berbunch · 06-14-11, 05:55 AM

The name should remain! I've visited the memorial to this lab many times as an air cadet when gliding at Scampton, history is history and typically somebody who wasn't a part of that history wants to rewrite it. Will all the crews be American? Will they come back totally unscathed? Will they rework the bomb so it skates or skis across the water rather than bounces?

The film should not be remade, and if it can't be done with the two flying Lancasters in the world then it shouldn't be done ever! No CGI please.

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BossMark · 06-14-11, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

The name should remain! I've visited the memorial to this lab many times as an air cadet when gliding at Scampton, history is history and typically somebody who wasn't a part of that history wants to rewrite it. Will all the crews be American? Will they come back totally unscathed? Will they rework the bomb so it skates or skis across the water rather than bounces?

The film should not be remade, and if it can't be done with the two flying Lancasters in the world then it shouldn't be done ever! No CGI please.

Couldnt agree with you more well said

joea · 06-14-11, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

The film should not be remade, and if it can't be done with the two flying Lancasters in the world then it shouldn't be done ever! No CGI please.

Why not? Ok better to maybe do films on fresh subjects not done before but why not do a film with CGi? Why the hate I mean frankly we are not going to have real flying machines from that epoch forever and special effects have their place, heck done correctly we can have accurate models for theatre/year of operations and no more "fake" Me-109s like in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. As long as they don't replace a good story, acting, dialouge why not? It's not as if the original dambusters had real Lancs for all the scenes.

As to the dog, really not sure-I hate that word for what it represents but also hate covering up history.

kiwi_2005 · 06-14-11, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

The name should remain! I've visited the memorial to this lab many times as an air cadet when gliding at Scampton, history is history and typically somebody who wasn't a part of that history wants to rewrite it. Will all the crews be American? Will they come back totally unscathed? Will they rework the bomb so it skates or skis across the water rather than bounces?

The film should not be remade, and if it can't be done with the two flying Lancasters in the world then it shouldn't be done ever! No CGI please.

Good point. I think they will try and make the movie as true to the real story as they can but yeah most likely will go CGI and whether all the crews will be Americans im hoping so, surely.

06-14-11, 06:53 AM

I think it is only right that history is rewritten to prevent any possible offence.
They should follow the earlier example and call the dog Trigger instead of ******, the dog must be played by Roger Loyd Pack and must frequently call Guy Gibson "Dave".

Oberon · 06-14-11, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

I think it is only right that history is rewritten to prevent any possible offence.
They should follow the earlier example and call the dog Trigger instead of ******, the dog must be played by Roger Loyd Pack and must frequently call Guy Gibson "Dave".

I'm in two minds of this one. On one hand it is the dogs name, but on the other hand it was another era and you can't get away with half the words you could back then than you can now. So ****** is alas probably off the cards. However, given the writer of the script I would hope that that is the only change.

CCIP · 06-14-11, 07:28 AM

Digga, please.

Sorry, that's about the only response I can think up to something like this.... /facepalms

Oberon · 06-14-11, 07:55 AM

Oh, and especially for Hunter:

"Digga just got kicked in yo chest!"

Jimbuna · 06-14-11, 08:00 AM

Political Corectness....a veritable minefield.

CCIP · 06-14-11, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Oh, and especially for Hunter:

"Digga just got kicked in yo chest!"

is that Obama?

Oberon · 06-14-11, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

is that Obama?

According to Yubba, probably yes.

nikimcbee · 06-14-11, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

is that Obama?

No. Too busy playin' golf.

Herr-Berbunch · 06-14-11, 08:18 AM

Just found out they're gonna use B17s.

Oh, and the dog is going to be a Collie, like Lassie, or a German Shepherd like the Littlest Hobo, or Rin Tin Tin!

And it's not in Germany, it's going to be N. Korea, or China (Three Gorges Dam would be a good one!).

And it's not going to be dams, it's going to be nuclear 'powerplants'

.

And it's not going to be at night, as it's too dark for the pilots.

So, a daylight raid to N. Korea in B17s piloted by dogs to destroy nuclear 'powerplants' *coughs - weapons facility*, called The Dambusters. The lead dog is going to write a book called Enemy Cats Ahead, but will be heavily censored for 60 years

@joea - I agree that the original didn't always use real a/c, and on occasion the models didn't look too realistic, but there is a certain charm about models that CGI just can't replace. I, for instance, much prefer the wonderful stop-motion of Jason and the Argonauts, or The Golden Voyage of Sinbad to much (not all) of the current crop of CGI'd films.

Much better than -

I was also about to rant that if I had a budget of some £26m (us$42m) I would probably invest in building some real a/c, but then I came across this site http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment...for-Dambusters and found he's had ten replicas manufactured in China (so that's it then, N. Korea will be the target

). Still, to manufacture a flying replica would have been better.

Feuer Frei! · 06-14-11, 08:24 AM

A Bone of Contention it is no longer.
I wonder how this translates into other movies with other cultures?

Oberon · 06-14-11, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

A Bone of Contention it is no longer.
I wonder how this translates into other movies with other cultures?

Red Dawn remake.

To be honest though, I'm not as concerned as I was about this film when I read that Stephen Fry was writing the script. He's usually quite good with historical accuracy. I think (and hope) that ****** is the only thing to be changed for modern audiences. Plus David Frost is on the team, so I imagine the reason why it's only just been confirmed now that ****** is out is because it's taken them this long to win him over.

View Poll Results: Should Nigga be changed to Digger
Hell its Dambusters! His name is ******, leave it as it is.	21	61.76%
Racist! Change it to Digger or im gonna shoot your nigga ass.	0	0%
Who cares! Kiwi_2005 has obviously ran out of coffee	4	11.76%
Facepalm	12	35.29%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 34. You may not vote on this poll

06-14-11, 05:55 AM	#1
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	The name should remain! I've visited the memorial to this lab many times as an air cadet when gliding at Scampton, history is history and typically somebody who wasn't a part of that history wants to rewrite it. Will all the crews be American? Will they come back totally unscathed? Will they rework the bomb so it skates or skis across the water rather than bounces? The film should not be remade, and if it can't be done with the two flying Lancasters in the world then it shouldn't be done ever! No CGI please. [IMG]http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafscampton/rafcms/mediafiles/gallery/D648980D_1143_EC82_2EAEFA2F14E561EB/******s_grave_large.jpg[/IMG] __________________

06-14-11, 07:28 AM	#7
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06-14-11, 08:18 AM	#13
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Just found out they're gonna use B17s. Oh, and the dog is going to be a Collie, like Lassie, or a German Shepherd like the Littlest Hobo, or Rin Tin Tin! And it's not in Germany, it's going to be N. Korea, or China (Three Gorges Dam would be a good one!). And it's not going to be dams, it's going to be nuclear 'powerplants' . And it's not going to be at night, as it's too dark for the pilots. So, a daylight raid to N. Korea in B17s piloted by dogs to destroy nuclear 'powerplants' coughs - weapons facility, called The Dambusters. The lead dog is going to write a book called Enemy Cats Ahead, but will be heavily censored for 60 years @joea - I agree that the original didn't always use real a/c, and on occasion the models didn't look too realistic, but there is a certain charm about models that CGI just can't replace. I, for instance, much prefer the wonderful stop-motion of Jason and the Argonauts, or The Golden Voyage of Sinbad to much (not all) of the current crop of CGI'd films. Much better than - I was also about to rant that if I had a budget of some £26m (us$42m) I would probably invest in building some real a/c, but then I came across this site http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment...for-Dambusters and found he's had ten replicas manufactured in China (so that's it then, N. Korea will be the target ). Still, to manufacture a flying replica would have been better. __________________

06-14-11, 06:53 AM	#5
Tribesman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I think it is only right that history is rewritten to prevent any possible offence. They should follow the earlier example and call the dog Trigger instead of ******, the dog must be played by Roger Loyd Pack and must frequently call Guy Gibson "Dave".

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Oh, and especially for Hunter: "Digga just got kicked in yo chest!"

06-14-11, 08:24 AM	#14
Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	A Bone of Contention it is no longer. I wonder how this translates into other movies with other cultures? __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS