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View Poll Results: Should Nigga be changed to Digger
Hell its Dambusters! His name is ******, leave it as it is. 21 61.76%
Racist! Change it to Digger or im gonna shoot your nigga ass. 0 0%
Who cares! Kiwi_2005 has obviously ran out of coffee 4 11.76%
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Old 06-14-11, 06:53 AM   #1
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I think it is only right that history is rewritten to prevent any possible offence.
They should follow the earlier example and call the dog Trigger instead of ******, the dog must be played by Roger Loyd Pack and must frequently call Guy Gibson "Dave".
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Old 06-14-11, 07:10 AM   #2
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I think it is only right that history is rewritten to prevent any possible offence.
They should follow the earlier example and call the dog Trigger instead of ******, the dog must be played by Roger Loyd Pack and must frequently call Guy Gibson "Dave".


I'm in two minds of this one. On one hand it is the dogs name, but on the other hand it was another era and you can't get away with half the words you could back then than you can now. So ****** is alas probably off the cards. However, given the writer of the script I would hope that that is the only change.
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Old 06-14-11, 07:28 AM   #3
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Digga, please.


Sorry, that's about the only response I can think up to something like this.... /facepalms
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Oh, and especially for Hunter:

"Digga just got kicked in yo chest!"

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Old 06-14-11, 08:00 AM   #5
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Political Corectness....a veritable minefield.
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Oh, and especially for Hunter:

"Digga just got kicked in yo chest!"

is that Obama?
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is that Obama?
According to Yubba, probably yes.
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is that Obama?
No. Too busy playin' golf.
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Old 06-14-11, 08:52 AM   #9
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So we forgo history and favour RE-writing it, just to be politically correct?
Well, what's the point of having history at all then?
Historical accuracy? Nope.
But, it would just be easy meat for the media if it wasn't changed.
They better start remaking a ton of films then and re-writing history.
Burying or hiding or changing history is not being realistic.
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So we forgo history and favour RE-writing it, just to be politically correct?
Well, what's the point of having history at all then?
Historical accuracy? Nope.
But, it would just be easy meat for the media if it wasn't changed.
They better start remaking a ton of films then and re-writing history.
Burying or hiding or changing history is not being realistic.

Please tell me a time when history was not written/rewritten to serve some agenda?

This is why on most (all?) historical subjects there are multiple writings on the history from different viewpoints.
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Old 06-14-11, 08:18 AM   #11
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Just found out they're gonna use B17s.

Oh, and the dog is going to be a Collie, like Lassie, or a German Shepherd like the Littlest Hobo, or Rin Tin Tin!

And it's not in Germany, it's going to be N. Korea, or China (Three Gorges Dam would be a good one!).

And it's not going to be dams, it's going to be nuclear 'powerplants' .

And it's not going to be at night, as it's too dark for the pilots.

So, a daylight raid to N. Korea in B17s piloted by dogs to destroy nuclear 'powerplants' *coughs - weapons facility*, called The Dambusters. The lead dog is going to write a book called Enemy Cats Ahead, but will be heavily censored for 60 years

@joea - I agree that the original didn't always use real a/c, and on occasion the models didn't look too realistic, but there is a certain charm about models that CGI just can't replace. I, for instance, much prefer the wonderful stop-motion of Jason and the Argonauts, or The Golden Voyage of Sinbad to much (not all) of the current crop of CGI'd films.



Much better than -




I was also about to rant that if I had a budget of some £26m (us$42m) I would probably invest in building some real a/c, but then I came across this site http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment...for-Dambusters and found he's had ten replicas manufactured in China (so that's it then, N. Korea will be the target ). Still, to manufacture a flying replica would have been better.
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Old 06-14-11, 08:24 AM   #12
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A Bone of Contention it is no longer.
I wonder how this translates into other movies with other cultures?
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A Bone of Contention it is no longer.
I wonder how this translates into other movies with other cultures?
Red Dawn remake.

To be honest though, I'm not as concerned as I was about this film when I read that Stephen Fry was writing the script. He's usually quite good with historical accuracy. I think (and hope) that ****** is the only thing to be changed for modern audiences. Plus David Frost is on the team, so I imagine the reason why it's only just been confirmed now that ****** is out is because it's taken them this long to win him over.
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Red Dawn remake.

To be honest though, I'm not as concerned as I was about this film when I read that Stephen Fry was writing the script. He's usually quite good with historical accuracy. I think (and hope) that ****** is the only thing to be changed for modern audiences. Plus David Frost is on the team, so I imagine the reason why it's only just been confirmed now that ****** is out is because it's taken them this long to win him over.
Sir David's choice is Nigsy, which Gibson sometimes called ******. So I think that would be an excellent, and still authentic, choice.

And how come when a black man says that word it's socially acceptable, but with a white man it's not? But I can't ask that as that's also deemed racist to even imply there is a difference one way or the other!
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And how come when a black man says that word it's socially acceptable, but with a white man it's not?
Because when a white man says it, it carries with it the baggage of 400 years of slavery.

And back on topic...I'm on the fence about this. I can see why they would change it, but then again, why should they? I guess the controversy of changing it is much less than the controversy of not changing it.
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