Sarah Palin e-mails: First details emerge

[STEED]

[tater]

I wonder how many words were written about Palin's terrible Paul Revere gaffe vs Obama's terrible "I'm campaigning in 57 states" gaffe? Do you think only an order of magnitude more about Palin? 2 orders of magnitude? More?

It was pretty clear in the last election, the press spent far more time scrutinizing the credentials of (and digging up dirt on) the republican VP candidate than the democrat presidential one.

I think this actually backfires, though. All it does is show the press to be biased, and they are already distrusted.

I hope she doesn't run, frankly, though if she does, I bet she runs as an Independent (thus guaranteeing a 2d Obama term).

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Vendor

Critics say the e-mails may damage Palin's presidential chances.

I don't think these E-mails are going to affect people's opinion of Palin. By this time, people have formed their opinion of Palin.

People who like her won't be affected by these E-mails
People who don't like her won't like her less because of these E-mails.

Personally, I think it is cruddy that these E-mails are being released. I know I would hate it if my business E-mails were released to the public.

I wonder how many words were written about Palin's terrible Paul Revere gaffe vs Obama's terrible "I'm campaigning in 57 states" gaffe?

That would only be a valid comparison if Bama went on TV to insist there really are 57 states after the gaffe or if some moonbats had gone on wiki to change the map on the USA page

[longam]

Don't worry, she'll survive.

http://www.facebook.com/sarahpalin

http://www.sarahpac.com/

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

That would only be a valid comparison if Bama went on TV to insist there really are 57 states after the gaffe or if some moonbats had gone on wiki to change the map on the USA page

And that settles that. Obama had campaigned in 47 states at that point. To make a slip of the tongue and say 57 states in that scenario is understandable. If anyone believes that a Harvard cum laude grad who taught constitutional law honestly thinks theres 57 states in the nation, then they're the....

To be so stupid as to not know what Paul Revere did...they teach about his midnight ride in grade school, for god's sake...and then to double down on your mistake by insisting you're right is sheer willful ignorance. She, and her followers, revel in that ignorance.

THAT'S why there's a Palin witch hunt. It's all about being the first to cover the next piece of stupidity to come out of her mouth.

And there's no comparison with Obama, or Dubya for that matter. Presidents don't release their private school documents. Bush's only came out because of a leak. Palin's emails as governor are public record.

[vienna]

There's an old Japanese proverb: "The nail that stands the highest, gets hit first and hardest." Palin is a very high standing nail and she has brought the scutiny on herself. I don't believe there is any more scutiny of her than there is of anyone else in her position. It is a little naive and self-serving for her supporters to insist she is being singled out unfairly for media attention. Prior posts have tried to draw comparisons between efforts to investigate Obama's past and Palin's. The inference (if not outright statement) is the "liberal-controlled" media goes soft on Obama and not on Palin. This is absurd if only for the fact there is a substantial "conservative-controlled" media that has and most likely still is delving into the background and actions of Obama, past, present, and, assuredly, future. If they had found anything of material import, we would have heard about it by now. Also, use a little logic and ask yourself if you were an owner or editor of a media outlet, would you bury a sure-fire, front page, attention getting (possibly Pulitzer) story because of political bias? Would you risk your journalistic reputation or employment? Would you want to be known as the person who passed on possibly the story of the decade (if the "dirt" was dirty enough)? Even if you subscribe to the "liberal-controlled" media paradigm, do you think Limbaugh, Hannity, et. al., would balk at the chance to be the one to bring Obama down? As may be possible with Palin's e-mails, perhaps no Obama secrets have come to light before because "there is no there, there".

There is, truthfully, a form of media bias that often goes unnoticed: the slant or spin. This is selective journalism at its most insidious. Rev. Jesse Jackson like to tell a fable about media reportage:

Jesse Jackson and the Pope decide to have a face-to-face meeting. They decide to meet in a row boat in the middle of a lake to be out of ear-shot of the media, who ring the shore. During the meeting, a strong wind blows the Pope's hat off his head and into the lake. Jesse climbs out of the boat, walks on the water, retrieves the Pope's hat and returns to the row boat. And what does the press report the next day? Does the headline read "Jesse Jackson Meets with Pope"? No. "Jesse Jackson Saves Pope's Hat"? No. "Jesse Jackson Walks on Water"? No. The headlines read "Jesse Jackson Can't Swim".

Think of that the next time you see or hear an eye-catching headline. Oh, and no I am most certainly not a Jesse Jackson supporter but I do appreciate his take on media.

[Gerald]

Just, e-mail note

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/h..._interview.pdf

[tater]

Yeah, doubling down for palin was idiotic. Obama also said 10,000 died the day before in a speech due to a tornado. Gore said the core of the earth was millions of degrees.

No one in politics is terribly smart

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

So for a non US Citizen to be enlightened, what seems to be the deciding factor(s) for hounding the heck out of this Woman?
I mean, if she is absolutely no threat to any political parties or persons, then why the heck not just leave her alone? Are you Guys (and i mean the Media and Political Editors etc etc) that write about her continuously so bored and in love with her, figuratively speaking, that maybe, just maybe there is other things to write about. Or rather other, more influential and 'real' Presidential hopes.
Just curious.

It's nothing personal against Palin as a person. Just take a gander at the course material I've worked up for next year...




...next slide please...

<sermon>
Welcome to

The American Way of Getting Things Done The American Way 101




Here you will learn how to cheat, how to lie, how to obfuscate, how to manipulate and dupe people into voting for one letter or the other. Most preferably you want the people to vote for your letter... *blahblahblah ad naseum* ... and most importantly you want an ace in your sleeve. Take Sarah Palin for example. She's not serious about running for President, but we sure would like the common folk to believe that she is. Why? Welllemme tellya...
</sermon>


Substitute a few loser names and repeat that process over a couple of decades and you begin to get the picture. It's a load of crap, Feuer; just the same as anywhere else in the world.

[Gerald]

Nice picture,

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by vienna

There's an old Japanese proverb: "The nail that stands the highest, gets hit first and hardest." Palin is a very high standing nail and she has brought the scutiny on herself.

That sounds like an accurate assesment to me.

[tater]

I agree, but then again after the 2004 DNC speech, Obama was a very high nail indeed.

Except, instead of hitting it down, the press seems to have mounted it and rode it

[Ducimus]

All i know is Palin stuck out to me from day 1 she emerged from bumblefark Alaska. She sounded incredibly dumb and ignorant to me. I was all aboard the McCain ticket until he stupidly choose Palin as his running mate. First impressions are hard to break, and i still think of her as dumb and ignorant of the world past her front porch. Wait... i take that back. I also think of her as a whiney attention whore too, along with dumb and ignorant. Although.. i have to hand it to her for knowing how to cash on on new found fame. That takes some semblance of intelligence i suppose.


Don't get me wrong, I have no problem voting for a woman to go to the white house. But NOT Palin. She's too F'ing stupid of the world. And certainly NOT Clinton, she's too power hungry.

[tater]

The Paul Revere thing was pretty stupid. The correct response should have been to just say she misspoke, and said "British" when clearly any idiot meant "Americans" or "Colonials." Instead she doubles down. Obama has been doing that all along, though. He kowtows to a king, then doubles down.

Even though I don't like Palin, you have to admit, the press is rabid about hurting her. She's not even a candidate, and they spend more effort reading her emails already than they spent checking up on Obama, period. Where are Obama's legal records from his time as a lawyer? What about his documents from the state legislature (which like all pols should be public)? The birther nonsense masked the real issues of docs that the public really needed to see, and never did, which is probably why he strung it along the way he did.

Bottom line is that I'm fine with reading all the official emails (obviously everyone should have some expectation of privacy with personal mails) of any public official, heck, every single work-related thing they ever wrote. But the standard should be EQUAL, and scaled to the person in terms of time spent by press. The more important, the more time. The president's old stuff should get the lion's share, and the final candidate on the ballot running against, the exact same. Primary candidates should expect the same scrutiny, but the press should devote less time to them, clearly. People who have not even declared yet? Unless the press has more than 30 (a LOT more) working on EACH of the other Republicans seeking nomination, and more than 30 digging dirt on Obama (not covering, but "digging dirt"), then this is over the top, IMHO.