[TEC] Adding/Importing new units / SH5 Damage/collision models

[TheDarkWraith]

Originally Posted by reaper7

Nope didn't do the trick, moved it gradually from 0.5 up to 1. Still the same outcome just sinks in about 5 seconds from the rear.

I'll be happy to take a look at it

[reaper7]

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

I'll be happy to take a look at it

My Fault - It was the centre of gravity I pushed it the wrong direction so was making the problem worse not better.
Pulled it back towards the rear of the boat and not the front and it did the trick.
Still needs a little fine-tuning but shes floating.

Thank You TDW.

[Zedi]

This is a small fishing boat, right? Is newly created unit, or an old model?

[reaper7]

Originally Posted by Zedi

This is a small fishing boat, right? Is newly created unit, or an old model?

Its a reworked and UV wrap optimised version of the stock SH3 NF_Boat_1.
Its part of the WIP Mod U-Boot_HAHD that will be released for SH3,
Here's a vid showing the comparison between stock and rework:
and will be available for SH5 after the Mod release.

The UV Unwrap method we do allows for complete texturing of the ship with percise texture for all aspects of the model even both hull sides are seperate
Also other 3D models like Tyres and lifeboays have been added. Still more to do with it yet ;-)

Thanks TDW its floating correctly now. Next to get the damage working

[TheDarkWraith]

Did a lot of testing today with the alpha channel of the _Oxx maps. I've concluded that the alpha channel is like the specular intensity factor. If I make that alpha channel black (0x00000000) I get no specular reflections from sunlight. If I make it white (0xFFFFFFFF) I get amazing specular reflections.

Still playing with the alpha channel of the _Txx maps.

These shaders are responsible for the rendering of the _Oxx map:
\data\Shaders\UnifiedRender\URTex2PLightSMPS controls rendering from long distances (>= LowLODDistance)
\data\Shaders\UnifiedRender\URTex2PLightSMNMPS controls rendering from close distances (< LowLODDistance)

If you look at the alpha channel of the SH4 _Oxx maps you'll notice that they have NOTHING to do with the RGB channels. Recommend either deleting that alpha channel or setting it to some shade of white.

Adding/Removing alpha channel from the _Txx maps appears to have no effect on final rendering.

[SteelViking]

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

Did a lot of testing today with the alpha channel of the _Oxx maps. I've concluded that the alpha channel is like the specular intensity factor. If I make that alpha channel black (0x00000000) I get no specular reflections from sunlight. If I make it white (0xFFFFFFFF) I get amazing specular reflections.

Still playing with the alpha channel of the _Txx maps.

These shaders are responsible for the rendering of the _Oxx map:
\data\Shaders\UnifiedRender\URTex2PLightSMPS controls rendering from long distances (>= LowLODDistance)
\data\Shaders\UnifiedRender\URTex2PLightSMNMPS controls rendering from close distances (< LowLODDistance)

If you look at the alpha channel of the SH4 _Oxx maps you'll notice that they have NOTHING to do with the RGB channels. Recommend either deleting that alpha channel or setting it to some shade of white.

Adding/Removing alpha channel from the _Txx maps appears to have no effect on final rendering.

I am pretty sure you could just remove the alpha channel of SH5 shadow maps. They really make no difference.

Edit: Yup, just tested it, removing the alpha channel altogether looks just like if you set the image to full opacity.

[TheDarkWraith]

Originally Posted by SteelViking

I am pretty sure you could just remove the alpha channel of SH5 shadow maps. They really make no difference.

Edit: Yup, just tested it, removing the alpha channel altogether looks just like if you set the image to full opacity.

Just deleting the alpha channel though doesn't look correct when sun is low on horizon. The specular reflections are way too strong. I think a color of medium white (alpha of 0x7F) is a good balance.

[SteelViking]

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

Just deleting the alpha channel though doesn't look correct when sun is low on horizon. The specular reflections are way too strong. I think a color of medium white (alpha of 0x7F) is a good balance.

TDW, could you please send me the Oxx map for the NMFMPC after you have done this?

[TheDarkWraith]

Originally Posted by SteelViking

TDW, could you please send me the Oxx map for the NMFMPC after you have done this?

I'm using a different ship now. The Akita. Do you have it? If not, I'll send it to you after this last test I'm doing.

[SteelViking]

I have the NKMCS_Akita.

[TheDarkWraith]

Originally Posted by SteelViking

I have the NKMCS_Akita.

Using Photoshop I adjusted the levels of the RGB channels of the _Oxx map. I set the output levels to 122. I set the alpha channel to 0xB4B4B4 and set the alpha channel of the _Txx map to 0x3A3A3A. Looks really good

[naights]

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

Did a lot of testing today with the alpha channel of the _Oxx maps. I've concluded that the alpha channel is like the specular intensity factor. If I make that alpha channel black (0x00000000) I get no specular reflections from sunlight. If I make it white (0xFFFFFFFF) I get amazing specular reflections.

Still playing with the alpha channel of the _Txx maps.

These shaders are responsible for the rendering of the _Oxx map:
\data\Shaders\UnifiedRender\URTex2PLightSMPS controls rendering from long distances (>= LowLODDistance)
\data\Shaders\UnifiedRender\URTex2PLightSMNMPS controls rendering from close distances (< LowLODDistance)

If you look at the alpha channel of the SH4 _Oxx maps you'll notice that they have NOTHING to do with the RGB channels. Recommend either deleting that alpha channel or setting it to some shade of white.

Adding/Removing alpha channel from the _Txx maps appears to have no effect on final rendering.

Hi:

Whats the color of the texture? specular maps in very white textures reacts more shinier than in darker ones (the light intensity affects too), probably you need to find good balance (rgb grey scale).

If the model comes with shadow maps, you can try adjusting white input to be darker, so all de model will take darker tone, lowering lightness of the diffuse will help too.

Bye !!

[SteelViking]

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

Using Photoshop I adjusted the levels of the RGB channels of the _Oxx map. I set the output levels to 122. I set the alpha channel to 0xB4B4B4 and set the alpha channel of the _Txx map to 0x3A3A3A. Looks really good

Off the top of my head, that sounds like a pretty solid setup.

[TheDarkWraith]

Originally Posted by SteelViking

Off the top of my head, that sounds like a pretty solid setup.

I set the alpha channel of the _Oxx map to 0xC8C8C8 for a little more specular intensity. Really liking the look of it now.

So here's what I did to the Akita:
- using Photoshop I adjusted the RGB levels of the _Oxx map. I set the output levels to 122
- I deleted the alpha channel of the _Oxx map. I made a new alpha channel and set the entire color to 0xC8C8C8.
- I added an alpha channel to the _Txx map. I set the entire color to 0x646464

All the shots were taken at the equator (location in world)

This is 1230 time:


This is 1730 time:


and this is 0130 time:


I think it looks really good. What do you think Zedi?

[Zedi]

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

I set the alpha channel of the _Oxx map to 0xC8C8C8 for a little more specular intensity. Really liking the look of it now.

So here's what I did to the Akita:
- using Photoshop I adjusted the RGB levels of the _Oxx map. I set the output levels to 122
- I deleted the alpha channel of the _Oxx map. I made a new alpha channel and set the entire color to 0xC8C8C8.
- I added an alpha channel to the _Txx map. I set the entire color to 0x646464

All the shots were taken at the equator (location in world)

This is 1230 time:


This is 1730 time:


and this is 0130 time:


I think it looks really good. What do you think Zedi?

Perfect, now finally this ship look like a sh5 one and will not make a difference in a convoy. Sent you guys the normal maps.. somehow thos I made were lost and replaced with the sh4 ones. Now it should look just perfect. But please fix the gravity center on Akita, the bow is too low.

Here a report from my last tests in campaign when stalking a convoy:


Im not complaining about anything as this kind of things can happen in a convoy under attack, but this guy did nothing to get out of the troop transport way.


Here is 2 minute later, notice the bow splash traveling alone



I have to double check this .. but maybe when ships have cargo on board they travel low on water.. is the first time I see this guy traveling low in a convoy, so this need more testing.



Anyway, this is a completely different game now.. its just amazing how much the game changes in the last months.