I'm living in a mental asylum

[CCIP]

Personally, I see the sense in saying that "celebration" was perhaps not an appropriate reaction at all. I don't see anything to be happy about, because that's a very primitive, vengeful stance. Killing the guy isn't going to bring back the people he killed, and running around singing songs and waving banners because a guy - even a really bad guy - got a bullet in the head is, well, just a little creepy if you ask me. Or at least telling of the level of 'enlightenment' and sanity large numbers of Western people have.

I think the lawsuit is ludicrous, of course.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

@ Darkfish
I've my doubts the raiding squad would have found bin Laden in that house if the the Pakistani government had been informed before the action took place.

*Edit*
Seems I was too slow.

Slow or not your doubts are well founded IMHO.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Polls say that a majority group here does not like the killing of BL, and wanted a cliniclly clean arrest and court etc etc.

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschla...angezeigt.html

There is no such thing as a clinically clean arrest UNLESS the person being arrested is passive and permits it to happen. 99% are, you have them run the drill place the cuffs on them and it's a non-event.

But then there are those who surround themselves with armed guards who all make it publicly known they are prepared to die before they will be placed under arrest and look forward to being made a Martyr for their cause. These types of suspects will not permit the arresting officer to just simply walk up and place restraints on them and take them in to stand trial.

In order to make a clinically clean arrest the suspect must, a. permit it to happen or, b. be beat down by a superior force and if that means putting a bullet in their fekkin' head to make the arrest a clinically clean one, then so be it. It was UBL's choice not to present himself to authorities, he made it quite clear to the public he would not be passive and permit that type of clinically clean arrest to happen.

But contrary to some peoples opinions IMHO the SEALs still made a text book clinically clean arrest because they, the SEALs and others involved, all came back home alive. On the other hand that sick bastard UBL didn't, he was killed. But to bad because that's his own damn fault not ours or the arresting force.


Chancellor Merkel ought to tell that jackazz judge to pack sand too.

[Jimbuna]

THIS WASA A JOB 'WELL DONE'

[kiwi_2005]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

I also would have preferred to see Bin Laden arrested, brought back to the US in shackles, and tried and convicted in a court of law.

What planet are you living on Frau! That would never had happen even if he came out with his hands in the air yelling I surrender. Every sniper had a bullet with his name on it since 911 IMHO.

[frau kaleun]

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

What planet are you living on Frau!

This one, which is why I assumed he would never be "brought to justice" in any other way.

[Gerald]

Mental asylum are,we talk about general, or particular

Its a free country, if Moller wants to bring a complaint because he thinks its un-christian and the law allows it then that is his free choice.

[Rockstar]

This judges name wouldn't happen to be Roland from the People's Court would it?

[Skybird]

"The noble souls of Landsberg":A very bitter and somewhat sad comment (German sorry). And so very true and very typical for contemporary Germany.

No more words needed - and no words can describe how much I despise such scum anyway.

Germanys' soul is weak and shabby, the older I get, the more I become alienated from it'S people and the more I suffer from needing to live in this place. The landscapes are beautiful and romantic, but the mind is corrupted, and the culture is decadent and rotten.

Ten days ago or so a schoolboy was trampling on the head of a victim laying on the ground in a Berlin subway station, its all on camera, and he was kicking his victim almost to death and kicked and jumped right onto his head. Not even 24 hours after the arrest he was released again. I can't even shake my head anymore when reading the latest headlines from this madhouse. I just close my eyes and feel a fundamental frustration, sometimes even despair. The victim additonally to the state attorney filed a case of attempted murder. Many Gutmenschen complained about that he did not forgive his attacker instead and shut up, and that it is not a moral thing to accuse the attacker of attempted murder.

How much space is left until we have reached the possible maximum of perversion?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

This judges name wouldn't happen to be Roland from the People's Court would it?

No, it is "Oberstaatsanwalt" (senior state attorney?) Wilhelm Möller, Hamburg.

[CCIP]

No offense Skybird, but a) the sudden jump from protests at the Bin Laden killing to teens jumping on seniors' heads is rhetorical nonsense. What does that have to do with anything? Sure, the case over official comments on the killing of a terrorist abroad is weighed heavily by evidence of heartless delinquent behaviours at home... b) You again sound like someone yearning for, you know, that other stereotypical German alternative to decadence and moral decay

I think noone would deny there are some serious moral problems at home, but redirecting them towards hatred and taking joy in violence - even against the worst of the worst - is never the solution. So in principle, I support the taking of authorities to account on this. Maybe it will make them mind their own business - preferably with all those problems at home - better.

[Lord Justice]

Originally Posted by CCIP

Personally, I see the sense in saying that "celebration" was perhaps not an appropriate reaction at all. I don't see anything to be happy about, because that's a very primitive, vengeful stance. Killing the guy isn't going to bring back the people he killed, and running around singing songs and waving banners because a guy - even a really bad guy - got a bullet in the head is, well, just a little creepy if you ask me.

I think the lawsuit is ludicrous, of course.

Well said, not shrouding, but disclosing the brighter intellects.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by CCIP

No offense Skybird, but a) the sudden jump from protests at the Bin Laden killing to teens jumping on seniors' heads is rhetorical nonsense. What does that have to do with anything?

Not directly related to BL, but to the Gutmenschen insanity that rules this country and that drives people like me to frustration and despair. The latest comment I linked, The npoble souls of Landsberg, illustrates that many Germans notoriously sympathise more with the perpetrators than with their victims, it is a very old, collective sin being repeated over here again and again and again, and the more shameless it is beign done the bigger the time gap to WWII. The article I just set up gives examples from German protestors against the Allied death penalties against Nazi criminals, and that it would be inhumane, while at the same time they chased counterprotestors - Jewish survivors from wiped out Jewish fam ilies - away with calls like "Juden raus", another exmaple it gives is the immense German desire to gain insight into the moral of left terrorism and to weigh interests of the RAF terrorists as higher than the interest of its victims, an attitude that is present in the wide poublic until today - a modern movie from two years ago portrayed the RAF terrorists as modern Che Guevaras who celebrated life and freedom in a wild way that one has to find understanding for - the victims of these bastard's desire for murder were misportryed, cut short, faded out, and even the portests of their reallife offsprings were not heared in Germany, and sometimes even yelled down.

Seen that way, my lament has more to do with the courtfile against Merkel over a typical Gutmenschen idiocy (even basing on wrong quoting) then you may originally have thought.

a) the sudden jump from protests at the Bin Laden killing to teens jumping on seniors' heads is rhetorical nonsense. What does that have to do with anything?

But can't you see the link, a schoolboy got released on bail and errr....ummmmm

You again sound like someone yearning for, you know, that other stereotypical German alternative to decadence and moral decay

You cannot imply Sky is a Nazi unless he is spouting word for word third reich propoganda again.
RAF terrorists doesn't quite cut it, it should be decadent anglo-american gangster terrorbombers But I see what you mean about........

Germanys' soul is weak and shabby, the older I get, the more I become alienated from it'S people and the more I suffer from needing to live in this place. The landscapes are beautiful and romantic, but the mind is corrupted, and the culture is decadent and rotten.

But look on the bright side, those asylums are clearly letting the patients have internet access now, how progressive.