Donald Trump made Obama release his birth certificate

[Ducimus]

Mookie ought to like this link:

"Ideas, solutions and policy have been trumped (literally) by insults, demonization and teenage-like attitude and snark."

http://blog.cagle.com/2011/04/will-t...-over-a-cliff/

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Mookie ought to like this link:

"Ideas, solutions and policy have been trumped (literally) by insults, demonization and teenage-like attitude and snark."

http://blog.cagle.com/2011/04/will-t...-over-a-cliff/

Reminds me of another article I read today. I don't completely buy into it, but it's an interesting thought experiment. Ezra Klein thinks that Obama is a early 1990s moderate Republican. The key part in that article is:

Rather, it appears that as Democrats moved to the right to pick up Republican votes, Republicans moved to the right to oppose Democratic proposals

I think that's what we're seeing. As the Democratic party drifts further right, you see these clowns like Bachman and Trump taking very extreme positions to differentiate themselves.

I like to read American Conservative magazine. It's got a smart right wing view that's not completely bugf-k insane like the mainstream neocon voices (Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, et. al). Even they lament how the Republican party has turned into some unrecognizable extremist group.

Eventually the GOP is going to get so far right that they alienate all but their true believers, and the pendulum will swing back the other way.

[August]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Eventually the GOP is going to get so far right that they alienate all but their true believers, and the pendulum will swing back the other way.

I thought the low point was reached in 2008 and the pendulum started swinging back last year.

[MaddogK]

I eagerly await the first presidential run of an anchor baby.

By some of your definitions of 'citizen' they'll be eligible because they were born on our side of some line on a map. Natural born by definition means born of 2 citizen parents.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by MaddogK

I eagerly await the first presidential run of an anchor baby.

By some of your definitions of 'citizen' they'll be eligible because they were born on our side of some line on a map. Natural born by definition means born of 2 citizen parents.

I'm not feeling all that well right now, but i could swear you just contradicted yourself.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by MaddogK

I eagerly await the first presidential run of an anchor baby.

By some of your definitions of 'citizen' they'll be eligible because they were born on our side of some line on a map. Natural born by definition means born of 2 citizen parents.

I suggest you read the law involving citizenship requirements before you tell people what's what. One parent is sufficient if that parent lived in the United States for the required period of time.
http://travel.state.gov/law/citizens...ship_5199.html

[MaddogK]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I suggest you read the law involving citizenship requirements before you tell people what's what. One parent is sufficient if that parent lived in the United States for the required period of time.
http://travel.state.gov/law/citizens...ship_5199.html

Wrong link ?
"Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship by a Child Born Abroad"


Fail Steve.

[Armistead]

I think Obama was just waiting so Trump would look like a bigger idiot than he is. I doubt Trump or Palin would run, but wouldn't that be a ticket for the ages, Obama wouldn't even have to campaign.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by MaddogK

Wrong link ?
"Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship by a Child Born Abroad"


Fail Steve.

You said flatly that to be "natural born" requires two citizen parents. That link clearly shows that only one of them has to be a citizen. How exactly does you being wrong equal me failing?

@TLAM

Originally Posted by Ducimus
Honestly, i think the whole birth issue, is veiled or coded racism. If he was a white guy, nobody would question his citizenship.
I don't think its veiled or coded at all. You are 100% right, if he wasn't highly pigmented we would not be having this discussion.

Not really, there is an aspect to it of that but it is wrong to call all birther fools racists. Ducmius was wrong to an extent as well because McCain had already had people challenging his elegibility and he doesn't look that dark.

It seems to me that this just shows a lack of good judgment on his part.

I agree with Augusts words but disagree completely with their intent, releasing these documents does show a lack of judgement but for the opposite reason.
He should have left things as they were and left all the birthers ranting so he could gain political capital from their public idiocy and it would have provided more entertainment.

[krashkart]

He should have left things as they were and left all the birthers ranting so he could gain political capital from their public idiocy and it would have provided more entertainment.

I think he should have left things as they were simply for leaving things as they should be left.