Donald Trump made Obama release his birth certificate

[the_tyrant]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Both are same link.

thanks for pointing it out, fixed

[Fish In The Water]

Newsflash: The Donald 'is very proud of himself...'

[mookiemookie]

And the total number of people who believe Obama is a secret Muslim commie Manchurian Candidate remains unchanged.

[Growler]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

And the total number of people who believe Obama is a secret Muslim commie Manchurian Candidate remains unchanged.

LOL... heck, it's probably gone UP based on some of the logic I've seen from those guys.

[Ducimus]

More fun.

Obama commented on it apparently.
And.. if i not mistaken, i think he just called Trump an "carnival barker".

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...arks-president

edit:

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Frankly, I'm not even sure if the goalposts have moved, after perusing most "birther" websites. They're inclined to think the Obama long form birth certificate is a Photoshopped fake or some sort of after the fact mockup at this point.

Most conspiracy theorists aren't interested in contrary evidence. Like the old X-Files movie tagline, it really comes down to I WANT to believe (or not believe). Facts don't enter into it.

Honestly, i think the whole birth issue, is veiled or coded racism. If he was a white guy, nobody would question his citizenship.

[AVGWarhawk]

Trump is a self serving and self promoting. I'm guessing he is bored with 'The Apprentice' and needed to fill the time. He is nothing but a distraction.

[Bilge_Rat]

looks fishy...it was recorded 4 days after he was born...more than enough time to fly him in from kenya...

[Ducimus]

I have to add, the top headline at cnn.com, should NOT be "Trump: I have done a great service".

Great, now hes going to short stroke this idiocy. You know.. he's not doing team R any great favors. All he's doing, is making them look even nuttier, and increasing the odds Obama gets reelected, which is precisely what they don't want, but they just can't quite gag the craziest of wingnuts.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Honestly, i think the whole birth issue, is veiled or coded racism. If he was a white guy, nobody would question his citizenship.

I don't think its veiled or coded at all. You are 100% right, if he wasn't highly pigmented we would not be having this discussion.

This is all an excuse to get the Team R drones to have something to rally on and not pay attention to the screwed up mess that both parties have created.

[TorpX]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

I don't think its veiled or coded at all. You are 100% right, if he wasn't highly pigmented we would not be having this discussion.

This is all an excuse to get the Team R drones to have something to rally on and not pay attention to the screwed up mess that both parties have created.

This is crap.

It is in no way illigitimate to expect Obama to answer questions about his background and citizenship, especially in regards to a Constitutional requirement. He could have done this in 15 minutes, 2 years ago, but chose to dance around the issue instead. Furthermore, few seem to grasp the reason so many question his citizenship, is the way he talks and behaves. He says he is a Christian, but seems to know less about Christian hollidays and customs than about Muslim hollidays and customs. The only churches he ever attends are those like the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, where anti-American diatribes are frequent. He travels to muslim countries and bows before their leaders. He shows little loyalty to, or concern for the United States. He is very secretive about his background and past associations. His thinking seems to be entirely the product of radical leftist, anti-american education. He has nearly spent the nation into oblivion. So yes, some people are starting to question his fitness for office. U.S. citizens have a right to expect that their President is honest, trustworthy and can faithfully execute the duties of office. This is hardly racism.

Do you think Obama is above question? Is he special?
Do you think that opponents are being mean and unfair?
When Ronald Reagan defeated Jimmy Carter in the 1980 election, the Democrats were very unhappy. Very, very unhappy. Democrats never loose an election, it seems. They decided that they must have lost because of Reagan and Bush conspiring with Iran to hold American hostages until after the election, so Carter would lose. The centerpiece of the conspiricy was that G. Bush had to fly to Paris in an SR-71 and back so nobody would know he left. This "theory", was considered credible by Democrats. I don't mean democrat wing-nuts and nobodies sitting at home by their computers. I mean Democrats in Congress. They actually conducted a formal investigation.


I also seem to remember, just days ago, where some of the lefties were making fun of Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin is a religious fanatic. Sarah Palin handles snakes. Sarah Palin is an idiot. Etc. Etc.
This line of criticism degenerated into pornographic areas. The moderators felt it necessary to cut the posts.

One can trash Sarah Palin all day long, but don't anyone DARE question King Obama.

[Fish In The Water]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

And the total number of people who believe Obama is a secret Muslim commie Manchurian Candidate remains unchanged.

That's the consequence of approaching an issue with a closed mind, you'll continue to believe what you want to believe despite the evidence.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Fish In The Water

That's the consequence of approaching an issue with a closed mind, you'll continue to believe what you want to believe despite the evidence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True-believer_syndrome

[Ducimus]

Mookie ought to like this link:

"Ideas, solutions and policy have been trumped (literally) by insults, demonization and teenage-like attitude and snark."

http://blog.cagle.com/2011/04/will-t...-over-a-cliff/

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Mookie ought to like this link:

"Ideas, solutions and policy have been trumped (literally) by insults, demonization and teenage-like attitude and snark."

http://blog.cagle.com/2011/04/will-t...-over-a-cliff/

Reminds me of another article I read today. I don't completely buy into it, but it's an interesting thought experiment. Ezra Klein thinks that Obama is a early 1990s moderate Republican. The key part in that article is:

Rather, it appears that as Democrats moved to the right to pick up Republican votes, Republicans moved to the right to oppose Democratic proposals

I think that's what we're seeing. As the Democratic party drifts further right, you see these clowns like Bachman and Trump taking very extreme positions to differentiate themselves.

I like to read American Conservative magazine. It's got a smart right wing view that's not completely bugf-k insane like the mainstream neocon voices (Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, et. al). Even they lament how the Republican party has turned into some unrecognizable extremist group.

Eventually the GOP is going to get so far right that they alienate all but their true believers, and the pendulum will swing back the other way.

@TLAM

Originally Posted by Ducimus
Honestly, i think the whole birth issue, is veiled or coded racism. If he was a white guy, nobody would question his citizenship.
I don't think its veiled or coded at all. You are 100% right, if he wasn't highly pigmented we would not be having this discussion.

Not really, there is an aspect to it of that but it is wrong to call all birther fools racists. Ducmius was wrong to an extent as well because McCain had already had people challenging his elegibility and he doesn't look that dark.

It seems to me that this just shows a lack of good judgment on his part.

I agree with Augusts words but disagree completely with their intent, releasing these documents does show a lack of judgement but for the opposite reason.
He should have left things as they were and left all the birthers ranting so he could gain political capital from their public idiocy and it would have provided more entertainment.