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Old 04-11-11, 12:34 PM   #21
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Who says that the entire Religon tolerates this extremism though? Do they have a Pope that speaks for everybody and says doing these things is good? Every group is gonna have its bad apples unfortunately but I wouldn't be against the entire group for the actions of a few. If I go out and Stab someone while screaming "FOR ZEUS" does that mean that all Pagans support stabbing people?

I have no idea if this post came out right I was having trouble trying to voice my thoughts.
Guilty by association, Warhawk says, and he is right. You get assessed by the people you silently tolerate to act in your name (and this practice is the rule, no the exception from it), and by the compoany you chose, and by your behavior and by the scripture of the ideology you weant to be called a follower of.

And the latter is the point. Who says the entire religion tolerates this extremism, you said. Nicely spoken for a Wetserner trying to see the good in everything. But I must crush your illusions. Their Quran says so, and even more, the Quran and the Muhammad DEMAND it.

I strongly recommend you start to read it a bit, plus some academic secondary literature on Quran, Islamic history, the Hadith ans Muhammad'S biograohy. Muhammad may be fictional or not, but the biography - fiction or real - that is associated with his name nevertheless is key to understand why Islam is what it is, and why it is like it is. Which is why the precise term for Islam indeed is "Muhammeddanism". Muhammad is cause and origin and star of it - Allah is just what Muhammad let fall out of his mouth. All they believe to know about Allah and Islam - they know exclusively from Muhammad. And Muhammad - amongst others criminal allegations was a liar at least. Two of his secretaries (Muhammad could not write) had to flee in fear for their lives, because they were able to witness that those words he claimed to have been given to him by Allah - actually were suggestions and formulations recommended by his writers.

Religion, eh? A cult of selfjustification may be closer a description. Or as I claim: Islam may not separate religion and politics, but it is more concerned about politics, than religion. The latter is for those being ruled. The first is for those who rule.
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