If Sonalysts made a new game...

Molon Labe · 03-31-11, 07:30 PM

YGTBFKM

Might have been funny with no leadup. With 2 months of leadup, this is just cruel and dumb.

TLAM Strike · 03-31-11, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Molon Labe

YGTBFKM

Might have been funny with no leadup. With 2 months of leadup, this is just cruel and dumb.

Huh? Is the DARPA sim a joke?

I'm confused...

Frying Tiger · 03-31-11, 09:22 PM

No joke. You guys/gals get to play with a "non-commercial" DW variant for once!

OlegM · 03-31-11, 09:55 PM

DARPA toy mini sim => huge disappointment TBH

I was intimately hoping for a new game, and expected at least an expansion pack for DW. In the end, it's neither, just some toy sim based on same old DW engine.

Dr. Sid, I agree with Molon Labe, your attempt at joke wasn't funny at all and with the actual news about DARPA thing it was also confusing

All in all, not a good day on Subsim...

Now with this storm in a teapot (kinda) over can we get at least a semiofficial opinion from SCS guys about feasibility of ever doing DW2? I already accepted there will never be another DW, only for fake alarms like this thread to raise my hopes again (and then to crush them even more cruelly

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Sea Demon · 03-31-11, 11:28 PM

I have to be honest, I'm a bit underwhelmed here. I was hoping for other possibilities. I'll reserve total judgement until I actually play this new DARPA game. But I do have a hard time seeing the enjoyment of simulating the "brains" of an unmanned naval platform.

Molon Labe · 03-31-11, 11:53 PM

I wasn't criticizing Dr. Sid, I thought it was an April Fool's joke considering the timing of the announcement.

OlegM · 04-01-11, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Molon Labe

I wasn't criticizing Dr. Sid, I thought it was an April Fool's joke considering the timing of the announcement.

Dr Sid's post was an attempt at April's Fool joke (and a super lame one at that). The ACTUV minigame announcement came sometime later, after Sid's post. So it was not only disappointing and not funny, it was also confusing.

Frying Tiger · 04-01-11, 12:03 AM

Well, remember this particular thread has nothing to do with the DARPA game... it actually predates that contract.

We weren't at liberty to mangage expectations, so I'm sorry if you're feeling let down. The Subsim community is an obvious spot to find people with a bit of a clue on submarine-related tactics, so it makes sense to announce it here and see what you can come up with for DARPA.

We are still paying attention to the comments in this thread.

Hottentot · 04-01-11, 12:57 AM

I have been following this thread since the beginning, but kept my mouth shut because I'm still pretty happy with DW and its mods. But now I have to point something out. In the introduction thread this quote caught my eye.

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This freely downloadable PC simulation from DARPA will allow players to operate the ACTUV (Antisubmarine Continuous Trail Unmanned Vessel) as it attempts to track an unknown submarine threatening the coast of the United States. By analyzing how the best players use ACTUV to complete their missions, DARPA hopes to gain insight into optimal tactics and capabilities to be implemented in the prototype system.

I'm just saying it would sound a little fishy to use an international community of subsim enthusiasts in a research that directly benefits the defense program of a foreign country. I'm not judging anyone who likes the idea, but personally I'm not fond of it. I play sims for fun and experience, not for this. And I would say the same if my own little piece of land decided to try something similar.

So, if it's real, I'll pass. But I specifically used the words "would sound", because so far I'm leaning towards the joke theory.

Molon Labe · 04-01-11, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Frying Tiger

Well, remember this particular thread has nothing to do with the DARPA game... it actually predates that contract.

We weren't at liberty to mangage expectations, so I'm sorry if you're feeling let down. The Subsim community is an obvious spot to find people with a bit of a clue on submarine-related tactics, so it makes sense to announce it here and see what you can come up with for DARPA.

We are still paying attention to the comments in this thread.

When Neal put the "Placeholder" subforum up two months ago, this was where it was discussed since the Placeholder was locked. Another thread popped up somewhere else too, but this one took over. The Placeholder was still over two months old, and that was the issue for me... not FuSoYa's question to us.

FERdeBOER · 04-01-11, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Frying Tiger

Well, remember this particular thread has nothing to do with the DARPA game... it actually predates that contract.

Quote:

We are still paying attention to the comments in this thread.

biosthetique · 10-13-13, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Frying Tiger

No joke. You guys/gals get to play with a "non-commercial" DW variant for once!

Great!...Most of us are (ex) military or engineers, that would not be a problem. I played with Steel Beast Pro-Pe, VBS2-VTK for years from a PC. Moreover, don't want to change platform.

Destex · 11-03-13, 06:34 AM

Advanced Torpedo Sensor Picture
What I miss most in DW and think would be a great addition to the game is advanced torpedo sensor display. It has been mentioned briefly in this thread but I would like to elaborate on what I think would make this a great feature for a future Sonalyst game.

1. Bearing or range data from Torpedoes display on tactical map.
2. Adding a torpedo sensor for the TMA display allowing the operator to determine the target's exact position by triangulation of own ship bearing to target and torpedo bearing to target. Of course the torpedo can pick up multiple targets, making this a whole new fascinating TMA challenge.
3. Adding a torpedo broadband and/or demon display for the weapon control screen, providing the torpedo's sonar contact picture for the operator.
4. Adding the ability to command the torpedo to attack one of its sonar passive or active contacts.

Advanced Missile Preset Control
Another aspect I find lacking is the Missile Preset control for sub-launched missiles. Currently there's only BOL (Bearing Only Launch) mode. A great addition would be adding RBL (Range and Bearing Launch) and be able to set the missile exact search box size according to how good your TMA solution is and taking into account other targets and the land into account when telling the missile where to find the desired target.

Kaye T. Bai · 11-25-17, 08:40 AM

SCS just uploaded 31 new pictures to their Facebook page. Perhaps pics from a new game? Can only hope!

https://www.facebook.com/pg/sonalyst...65120810360282

Hawk66 · 11-25-17, 09:40 AM

It seems they have finished their sim engine II

https://www.facebook.com/pg/sonalyst...=page_internal

but the question is if there will be any commercial game made with that engine ?

03-31-11, 07:30 PM	#1
Molon Labe Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Along the Watchtower Posts: 3,810 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 5	YGTBFKM Might have been funny with no leadup. With 2 months of leadup, this is just cruel and dumb. __________________

03-31-11, 09:22 PM	#3
Frying Tiger Sonalysts Man Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Waterford, CT Posts: 113 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	No joke. You guys/gals get to play with a "non-commercial" DW variant for once! __________________ *Roger "Frying Tiger"* Long** Art Lead Sonalysts Combat Simulations "the atom-powered submarine: Her engines were to be a miracle of speed and power, her sides strong enough to withstand any blow... The mind of man had thought of everything - except that which was beyond his comprehension!"

03-31-11, 11:53 PM	#6
Molon Labe Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Along the Watchtower Posts: 3,810 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 5	I wasn't criticizing Dr. Sid, I thought it was an April Fool's joke considering the timing of the announcement. __________________

04-01-11, 12:03 AM	#8
Frying Tiger Sonalysts Man Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Waterford, CT Posts: 113 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well, remember this particular thread has nothing to do with the DARPA game... it actually predates that contract. We weren't at liberty to mangage expectations, so I'm sorry if you're feeling let down. The Subsim community is an obvious spot to find people with a bit of a clue on submarine-related tactics, so it makes sense to announce it here and see what you can come up with for DARPA. We are still paying attention to the comments in this thread. __________________ *Roger "Frying Tiger"* Long** Art Lead Sonalysts Combat Simulations "the atom-powered submarine: Her engines were to be a miracle of speed and power, her sides strong enough to withstand any blow... The mind of man had thought of everything - except that which was beyond his comprehension!"

11-03-13, 06:34 AM	#13
Destex Sailor man Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 44 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Advanced Torpedo and Missile Weapon Control Advanced Torpedo Sensor Picture What I miss most in DW and think would be a great addition to the game is advanced torpedo sensor display. It has been mentioned briefly in this thread but I would like to elaborate on what I think would make this a great feature for a future Sonalyst game. 1. Bearing or range data from Torpedoes display on tactical map. 2. Adding a torpedo sensor for the TMA display allowing the operator to determine the target's exact position by triangulation of own ship bearing to target and torpedo bearing to target. Of course the torpedo can pick up multiple targets, making this a whole new fascinating TMA challenge. 3. Adding a torpedo broadband and/or demon display for the weapon control screen, providing the torpedo's sonar contact picture for the operator. 4. Adding the ability to command the torpedo to attack one of its sonar passive or active contacts. Advanced Missile Preset Control Another aspect I find lacking is the Missile Preset control for sub-launched missiles. Currently there's only BOL (Bearing Only Launch) mode. A great addition would be adding RBL (Range and Bearing Launch) and be able to set the missile exact search box size according to how good your TMA solution is and taking into account other targets and the land into account when telling the missile where to find the desired target. __________________ Last edited by Destex; 11-03-13 at 06:58 AM.

03-31-11, 09:55 PM	#4
OlegM Engineer Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 214 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	DARPA toy mini sim => huge disappointment TBH I was intimately hoping for a new game, and expected at least an expansion pack for DW. In the end, it's neither, just some toy sim based on same old DW engine. Dr. Sid, I agree with Molon Labe, your attempt at joke wasn't funny at all and with the actual news about DARPA thing it was also confusing All in all, not a good day on Subsim... Now with this storm in a teapot (kinda) over can we get at least a semiofficial opinion from SCS guys about feasibility of ever doing DW2? I already accepted there will never be another DW, only for fake alarms like this thread to raise my hopes again (and then to crush them even more cruelly )

03-31-11, 11:28 PM	#5
Sea Demon Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: USA Posts: 2,552 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	I have to be honest, I'm a bit underwhelmed here. I was hoping for other possibilities. I'll reserve total judgement until I actually play this new DARPA game. But I do have a hard time seeing the enjoyment of simulating the "brains" of an unmanned naval platform.

11-25-17, 08:40 AM	#14
Kaye T. Bai Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Western Hemisphere, Earth, Milky Way Galaxy, Local Group, Virgo Supercluster Posts: 585 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	SCS just uploaded 31 new pictures to their Facebook page. Perhaps pics from a new game? Can only hope! https://www.facebook.com/pg/sonalyst...65120810360282

11-25-17, 09:40 AM	#15
Hawk66 Commodore Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 609 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	It seems they have finished their sim engine II https://www.facebook.com/pg/sonalyst...=page_internal but the question is if there will be any commercial game made with that engine ?