Oh by the way Obama Care still Unconstitutional.

yubba · 03-05-11, 02:55 PM

me too, ha ha ha ha ha ha, the truth will set you free baby, yep I was a liberal then I sobered up, ha ha ha, see I would be mad too, it was your tax dollars that educated me, maybe you should ask for money back. So, Who Is Cleaning Up the Wisconsin Capitol After Union Protests?

Posted on March 5, 2011 at 10:22am by Scott Baker
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The protesters may be out, but the garbage left behind most definitely is not.
Cleanup cost estimates range from $347,500 to $7,500,000, depending on who you ask.
So, who is going to take out the trash?
Tea party supporters have taken to Facebook to organize an event called “It’s Time to Take Out the Trash!”:

It’s not about partisanship or protests, but pride.
It is time to take out the trash… literally. In true Flash Mob fashion, on Sunday at exactly 1300 hours (1:00 pm for you non-military types) we will do an extensive police call (pick up the trash) around the capitol square. Regardless of the state the grounds are in, we will do this as both a literal and symbolic way to show our respect for our home.
TEA Partiers know how this is done. It is time to show OUR pride for OUR state OUR way and be the example.
Even if you cannot attend, please share this and invite all of your sane friends who share our love of Wisconsin.
No signs, no screaming, just a necessary cleaning. Gee guys this is an easy one, you the taxpayer that's who, ha ha ha

Sailor Steve · 03-05-11, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by yubba

...I was a liberal then I sobered up...

I was raised a Conservative, then became a Liberal, then a Conservative for awhile. Then I realized the great truth, which is that no matter what your opinions or beliefs, there's always a chance you might be wrong.

I have no quarrel with either side. My quarrel is with people who talk as if they "know" they are right and the other guy is wrong. That attitude makes it difficult to learn anything, even harder to get at the truth, and impossible to fix it. All you can do is sink into calling names and laughing at people who might (or might not) know more than you.

Is that really all there is to offer?

yubba · 03-05-11, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I was raised a Conservative, then became a Liberal, then a Conservative for awhile. Then I realized the great truth, which is that no matter what your opinions or beliefs, there's always a chance you might be wrong.

I have no quarrel with either side. My quarrel is with people who talk as if they "know" they are right and the other guy is wrong. That attitude makes it difficult to learn anything, even harder to get at the truth, and impossible to fix it. All you can do is sink into calling names and laughing at people who might (or might not) know more than you.

Is that really all there is to offer?

You are right, I am not going to call anybody names and so far, correct me if I'm wrong I've haven't called any body anything in this thread, so far all I done is brought issues to lite that someone might not have known about like , the proper way to cook a tater. Obama care is still unconstitutional and this ok I' m sorry about the laughing. hell a year ago I didn't know I was liberal till I saw the light ,and was Hannatised now I'm right. didn't know right from left. Been a party animal for 30 years, and this government is destroying our country and I'm POED because I'm sober.

Oberon · 03-05-11, 07:54 PM

Bah, left, right, black, white, brown, yellow, pink, purple or blue, the fundamental things will stay no matter who you elect, the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer. The only difference is by how much. So at the end of the day, all the ho-hah about Obama or Bush or Clinton or Bush or Reagan, it all don't mean jack, because nothing will change.
The sooner America realises that, the sooner it can get on with existing.

Sailor Steve · 03-05-11, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Bah, left, right, black, white, brown, yellow, pink, purple or blue, the fundamental things will stay no matter who you elect, the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer. The only difference is by how much. So at the end of the day, all the ho-hah about Obama or Bush or Clinton or Bush or Reagan, it all don't mean jack, because nothing will change.
The sooner America realises that, the sooner it can get on with existing.

Well and profoundly said.

yubba · 03-05-11, 08:29 PM

correcto a mundo my British freind the rich get richer because of the Government , the poor can't get rich because the government doesn't want them rich, the Gov wants them on welfare and the Gov hold the goodies over their heads, and threatens to take the goodies away if some one else, is miss behaving, this is called collective punishment. This gov has already gone over edge, I'm trying not to get caught in the slip stream. we can change this vote wisely.

yubba · 03-05-11, 09:01 PM

On a parting note, I want to get some stick time in, mmm props or jets, if we let socalism take root in this country, what will they do to the Consitution of the United States and foremost what's going to happen to our beloved Subsim.com ? Think about it , make right choices.

Oberon · 03-05-11, 10:06 PM

But yubba the thing you don't seem to realise is that it's the same no matter what government there is. In Soviet Russia the rich were rich and powerful and the poor were poor, in Uganda, the rich are rich and powerful, the poor are poor, in the UK the rich are rich and powerful and the poor are poor. It's got nothing to do with governments but human nature, and that goes beyond any constitution, any laws, and any nation. Sure, you can have communist revolutions, but all that does is change the person in charge, it doesn't make the poor automatically rich, nor does it make the rich the same as the poor.

yubba · 03-05-11, 10:20 PM

well in the United States back before the government wanted to be european, no offence, everybody has a chance to be anything they want to be, that's who we are as a people, that's what makes us America, this government is blocking us from and destroying our dreams, we are a free people and we will get this turned around, because this over reaching government is broken, and broke, we will rise again, a whole lot stronger and wiser, you can not suppress freedom, from freedom minded people, we are not drones and we will not go down without a fight, it is not about the rich against the poor or the middle class, it is us the american people, white, black,red, yellow, old, young, poor, middle class, rich ,and who ever else on this earth who wants to be free, against this, US administration. It is very simple either you are for freedom or against it , I'll stick by the Constitution, we do take new members brother. vote and make right choices if we loose we loose everything and I mean everything, Subsim.com included so you better step up.

Bubblehead1980 · 03-06-11, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon

Bah, left, right, black, white, brown, yellow, pink, purple or blue, the fundamental things will stay no matter who you elect, the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer. The only difference is by how much. So at the end of the day, all the ho-hah about Obama or Bush or Clinton or Bush or Reagan, it all don't mean jack, because nothing will change.
The sooner America realises that, the sooner it can get on with existing.

Very cynical and incorrect view....

Oberon · 03-06-11, 08:22 PM

We'll see. However I think we can both agree that unless the Republicans elect a real lame duck or scare-monkey as their candidate for 2012 then Obama will be going. That much is inevitable.
How much the poor will benefit from it is debatable, likewise the rich.

Bubblehead1980 · 03-07-11, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon

We'll see. However I think we can both agree that unless the Republicans elect a real lame duck or scare-monkey as their candidate for 2012 then Obama will be going. That much is inevitable.
How much the poor will benefit from it is debatable, likewise the rich.

I can agree Obama will be going unless they put Palin or Romney(he just doesnt fire up the base enough due to his liberal tendencies, theyll stay home I bet)

I agree how much one class will benefit as opposed to the other is debatable but to say it does not really matter is a bit much, thus why I said incorrect.One thing that needs to stop is the class warfare, which Obama survives on, really bad for our society.

Sailor Steve · 03-05-11, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yubba

You are right, I am not going to call anybody names and so far, correct me if I'm wrong I've haven't called any body anything in this thread,

True, but painting all liberals with the same brush isn't much different. Many can (and do) say similar things about all conservatives, and I give them grief about it too.

Again with the Franklin quote: "Praise-All and Blame-All are two blockheads."

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Hannatised

Now there's a problem. Hannity is one of the ones who cured me of outright conservatism. He has plenty of things to say, but no thought behind them at all.

03-05-11, 02:55 PM	#1
yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	me too, ha ha ha ha ha ha, the truth will set you free baby, yep I was a liberal then I sobered up, ha ha ha, see I would be mad too, it was your tax dollars that educated me, maybe you should ask for money back. So, Who Is Cleaning Up the Wisconsin Capitol After Union Protests? Posted on March 5, 2011 at 10:22am by Scott Baker Print » Email » The protesters may be out, but the garbage left behind most definitely is not. Cleanup cost estimates range from $347,500 to $7,500,000, depending on who you ask. So, who is going to take out the trash? Tea party supporters have taken to Facebook to organize an event called “It’s Time to Take Out the Trash!”: It’s not about partisanship or protests, but pride. It is time to take out the trash… literally. In true Flash Mob fashion, on Sunday at exactly 1300 hours (1:00 pm for you non-military types) we will do an extensive police call (pick up the trash) around the capitol square. Regardless of the state the grounds are in, we will do this as both a literal and symbolic way to show our respect for our home. TEA Partiers know how this is done. It is time to show OUR pride for OUR state OUR way and be the example. Even if you cannot attend, please share this and invite all of your sane friends who share our love of Wisconsin. No signs, no screaming, just a necessary cleaning. Gee guys this is an easy one, you the taxpayer that's who, ha ha ha Last edited by yubba; 03-05-11 at 03:43 PM.

03-05-11, 09:01 PM	#7
yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	On a parting note, I want to get some stick time in, mmm props or jets, if we let socalism take root in this country, what will they do to the Consitution of the United States and foremost what's going to happen to our beloved Subsim.com ? Think about it , make right choices. Last edited by yubba; 03-05-11 at 10:03 PM.

03-05-11, 10:20 PM	#9
yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	well in the United States back before the government wanted to be european, no offence, everybody has a chance to be anything they want to be, that's who we are as a people, that's what makes us America, this government is blocking us from and destroying our dreams, we are a free people and we will get this turned around, because this over reaching government is broken, and broke, we will rise again, a whole lot stronger and wiser, you can not suppress freedom, from freedom minded people, we are not drones and we will not go down without a fight, it is not about the rich against the poor or the middle class, it is us the american people, white, black,red, yellow, old, young, poor, middle class, rich ,and who ever else on this earth who wants to be free, against this, US administration. It is very simple either you are for freedom or against it , I'll stick by the Constitution, we do take new members brother. vote and make right choices if we loose we loose everything and I mean everything, Subsim.com included so you better step up. Last edited by yubba; 03-05-11 at 11:06 PM.

03-05-11, 07:54 PM	#4
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Bah, left, right, black, white, brown, yellow, pink, purple or blue, the fundamental things will stay no matter who you elect, the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer. The only difference is by how much. So at the end of the day, all the ho-hah about Obama or Bush or Clinton or Bush or Reagan, it all don't mean jack, because nothing will change. The sooner America realises that, the sooner it can get on with existing.

03-05-11, 08:29 PM	#6
yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	correcto a mundo my British freind the rich get richer because of the Government , the poor can't get rich because the government doesn't want them rich, the Gov wants them on welfare and the Gov hold the goodies over their heads, and threatens to take the goodies away if some one else, is miss behaving, this is called collective punishment. This gov has already gone over edge, I'm trying not to get caught in the slip stream. we can change this vote wisely.

03-05-11, 10:06 PM	#8
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	But yubba the thing you don't seem to realise is that it's the same no matter what government there is. In Soviet Russia the rich were rich and powerful and the poor were poor, in Uganda, the rich are rich and powerful, the poor are poor, in the UK the rich are rich and powerful and the poor are poor. It's got nothing to do with governments but human nature, and that goes beyond any constitution, any laws, and any nation. Sure, you can have communist revolutions, but all that does is change the person in charge, it doesn't make the poor automatically rich, nor does it make the rich the same as the poor.

03-06-11, 08:22 PM	#11
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	We'll see. However I think we can both agree that unless the Republicans elect a real lame duck or scare-monkey as their candidate for 2012 then Obama will be going. That much is inevitable. How much the poor will benefit from it is debatable, likewise the rich.