Oh by the way Obama Care still Unconstitutional.

Oberon · 03-05-11, 07:54 PM

Bah, left, right, black, white, brown, yellow, pink, purple or blue, the fundamental things will stay no matter who you elect, the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer. The only difference is by how much. So at the end of the day, all the ho-hah about Obama or Bush or Clinton or Bush or Reagan, it all don't mean jack, because nothing will change.
The sooner America realises that, the sooner it can get on with existing.

Sailor Steve · 03-05-11, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon

Bah, left, right, black, white, brown, yellow, pink, purple or blue, the fundamental things will stay no matter who you elect, the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer. The only difference is by how much. So at the end of the day, all the ho-hah about Obama or Bush or Clinton or Bush or Reagan, it all don't mean jack, because nothing will change.
The sooner America realises that, the sooner it can get on with existing.

Well and profoundly said.

yubba · 03-05-11, 08:29 PM

correcto a mundo my British freind the rich get richer because of the Government , the poor can't get rich because the government doesn't want them rich, the Gov wants them on welfare and the Gov hold the goodies over their heads, and threatens to take the goodies away if some one else, is miss behaving, this is called collective punishment. This gov has already gone over edge, I'm trying not to get caught in the slip stream. we can change this vote wisely.

yubba · 03-05-11, 09:01 PM

On a parting note, I want to get some stick time in, mmm props or jets, if we let socalism take root in this country, what will they do to the Consitution of the United States and foremost what's going to happen to our beloved Subsim.com ? Think about it , make right choices.

Oberon · 03-05-11, 10:06 PM

But yubba the thing you don't seem to realise is that it's the same no matter what government there is. In Soviet Russia the rich were rich and powerful and the poor were poor, in Uganda, the rich are rich and powerful, the poor are poor, in the UK the rich are rich and powerful and the poor are poor. It's got nothing to do with governments but human nature, and that goes beyond any constitution, any laws, and any nation. Sure, you can have communist revolutions, but all that does is change the person in charge, it doesn't make the poor automatically rich, nor does it make the rich the same as the poor.

TorpX · 03-06-11, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon

But yubba the thing you don't seem to realise is that it's the same no matter what government there is. In Soviet Russia the rich were rich and powerful and the poor were poor, in Uganda, the rich are rich and powerful, the poor are poor, in the UK the rich are rich and powerful and the poor are poor. It's got nothing to do with governments but human nature, and that goes beyond any constitution, any laws, and any nation. Sure, you can have communist revolutions, but all that does is change the person in charge, it doesn't make the poor automatically rich, nor does it make the rich the same as the poor.

So living in South Korea is the same as living in North Korea?

I don't come here to argue about politics, but do you really believe that?

Oberon · 03-06-11, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TorpX

So living in South Korea is the same as living in North Korea?

I don't come here to argue about politics, but do you really believe that?

At a basic level yes.
There are rich people in North and South Korea, in North Korea they are the high level military and the favoured ones, in the south they are government and business. There are still poor in both north and south. The only difference is how poor they are. If you start factoring in freedom of action, then yes there is a huge difference, but that freedom of action does not make you any richer, it just allows you to complain about being poor and perhaps shuffle around the guys in charge every now and then.
People in the middle have a good chance, they can go up or down the ladder, but people right down at the bottom...a lot of the time the cycle eats them, they get stuck in with the wrong people and that's how it goes. Even in the poor you get different types, gangster poor which is quite rich but in all the wrong things, hobo poor which is completely poor or just working class poor which involves working all hours god sends just to keep a roof over your head as opposed to someone who works four hours a day and gets paid for twenty plus gets a bonus for securing a business deal over wine and dinner. It's that kind of difference that takes place in every nation on this planet, because it's human nature that there is always people at the top and people at the bottom, the only thing that varies from country to country is what they are called.

yubba · 03-05-11, 10:20 PM

well in the United States back before the government wanted to be european, no offence, everybody has a chance to be anything they want to be, that's who we are as a people, that's what makes us America, this government is blocking us from and destroying our dreams, we are a free people and we will get this turned around, because this over reaching government is broken, and broke, we will rise again, a whole lot stronger and wiser, you can not suppress freedom, from freedom minded people, we are not drones and we will not go down without a fight, it is not about the rich against the poor or the middle class, it is us the american people, white, black,red, yellow, old, young, poor, middle class, rich ,and who ever else on this earth who wants to be free, against this, US administration. It is very simple either you are for freedom or against it , I'll stick by the Constitution, we do take new members brother. vote and make right choices if we loose we loose everything and I mean everything, Subsim.com included so you better step up.

Oberon · 03-05-11, 10:23 PM

Now that's what I'm talking about!

Good link Yubba.

EDIT: Well the above was a good link but soon turned into the usual rant. The Below is a good link.

yubba · 03-06-11, 10:54 AM

Dowly · 03-06-11, 10:58 AM

Yes, you posted that already. You also posted that other vid a few dozen
times already, so no need to post that either.

If you don't have anything to say, have a nice warm cup of stfu.

yubba · 03-07-11, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yubba

well in the United States back before the government wanted to be european, no offence, everybody has a chance to be anything they want to be, that's who we are as a people, that's what makes us America, this government is blocking us from and destroying our dreams, we are a free people and we will get this turned around, because this over reaching government is broken, and broke, we will rise again, a whole lot stronger and wiser, you can not suppress freedom, from freedom minded people, we are not drones and we will not go down without a fight, it is not about the rich against the poor or the middle class, it is us the american people, white, black,red, yellow, old, young, poor, middle class, rich ,and who ever else on this earth who wants to be free, against this, US administration. It is very simple either you are for freedom or against it , I'll stick by the Constitution, we do take new members brother. vote and make right choices if we loose we loose everything and I mean everything, Subsim.com included so you better step up.

I meant this with all my heart

keep an eye on Saudi Arabia

Ducimus · 03-07-11, 09:44 PM

Ok im going to be honest and blunt.

General topics has, a set number of regular readers and posters. Everyone's thoughts, stance, and position on various subjects is, or becomes, well known.

So im going to hazard a guess that everybody who posts here, knows how various people here feel about the current administration. Now here comes the clue, some of you missed and im going to stick my neck out by using a plural word, but....

Ok on the subject of Obama.......
YES WE KNOW. We know you hate his guts. WE GET THAT. (I'm not a fan either, but it's not like i waste my time ranting about it)

Continually restating that you hate obama in new and creative ways does nothing except annoy the crap out of everyone else who isn't in your masturbatory circle of thought.

Yes you read me right. By continually posting on the same topic, all your doing, in a figurative sense, is masterbating. All your Obama posts and threads? It's all self gratification to make you feel better, That is ALL your doing. The trouble is, everyone else is the pivot man to your virtual circle jerk regardless if they want to be involved in the topic or not, because it gets pasted all over the place.

yubba · 03-07-11, 11:23 PM

Well ex cussssssssse me, well if we don't get our heads out of our torpedo tubes there will be a day we turn on our computers, and this site and other beloved places might not be there. regulate, regulate, regulate, and we'll all will be drones.

Bubblehead1980 · 03-06-11, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon

Bah, left, right, black, white, brown, yellow, pink, purple or blue, the fundamental things will stay no matter who you elect, the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer. The only difference is by how much. So at the end of the day, all the ho-hah about Obama or Bush or Clinton or Bush or Reagan, it all don't mean jack, because nothing will change.
The sooner America realises that, the sooner it can get on with existing.

Very cynical and incorrect view....

03-05-11, 09:01 PM	#4
yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	On a parting note, I want to get some stick time in, mmm props or jets, if we let socalism take root in this country, what will they do to the Consitution of the United States and foremost what's going to happen to our beloved Subsim.com ? Think about it , make right choices. Last edited by yubba; 03-05-11 at 10:03 PM.

03-05-11, 10:20 PM	#8
yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	well in the United States back before the government wanted to be european, no offence, everybody has a chance to be anything they want to be, that's who we are as a people, that's what makes us America, this government is blocking us from and destroying our dreams, we are a free people and we will get this turned around, because this over reaching government is broken, and broke, we will rise again, a whole lot stronger and wiser, you can not suppress freedom, from freedom minded people, we are not drones and we will not go down without a fight, it is not about the rich against the poor or the middle class, it is us the american people, white, black,red, yellow, old, young, poor, middle class, rich ,and who ever else on this earth who wants to be free, against this, US administration. It is very simple either you are for freedom or against it , I'll stick by the Constitution, we do take new members brother. vote and make right choices if we loose we loose everything and I mean everything, Subsim.com included so you better step up. Last edited by yubba; 03-05-11 at 11:06 PM.

03-05-11, 10:23 PM	#9
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Now *that's* what I'm talking about! Good link Yubba. EDIT: Well the above was a good link but soon turned into the usual rant. The Below is a good link. Last edited by Oberon; 03-06-11 at 08:52 PM.

03-05-11, 07:54 PM	#1
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Bah, left, right, black, white, brown, yellow, pink, purple or blue, the fundamental things will stay no matter who you elect, the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer. The only difference is by how much. So at the end of the day, all the ho-hah about Obama or Bush or Clinton or Bush or Reagan, it all don't mean jack, because nothing will change. The sooner America realises that, the sooner it can get on with existing.

03-05-11, 08:29 PM	#3
yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	correcto a mundo my British freind the rich get richer because of the Government , the poor can't get rich because the government doesn't want them rich, the Gov wants them on welfare and the Gov hold the goodies over their heads, and threatens to take the goodies away if some one else, is miss behaving, this is called collective punishment. This gov has already gone over edge, I'm trying not to get caught in the slip stream. we can change this vote wisely.

03-05-11, 10:06 PM	#5
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	But yubba the thing you don't seem to realise is that it's the same no matter what government there is. In Soviet Russia the rich were rich and powerful and the poor were poor, in Uganda, the rich are rich and powerful, the poor are poor, in the UK the rich are rich and powerful and the poor are poor. It's got nothing to do with governments but human nature, and that goes beyond any constitution, any laws, and any nation. Sure, you can have communist revolutions, but all that does is change the person in charge, it doesn't make the poor automatically rich, nor does it make the rich the same as the poor.

03-06-11, 10:54 AM	#10
yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2

03-06-11, 10:58 AM	#11
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Yes, you posted that already. You also posted that other vid a few dozen times already, so no need to post that either. If you don't have anything to say, have a nice warm cup of stfu.

03-07-11, 09:44 PM	#13
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Ok im going to be honest and blunt. General topics has, a set number of regular readers and posters. Everyone's thoughts, stance, and position on various subjects is, or becomes, well known. So im going to hazard a guess that everybody who posts here, knows how various people here feel about the current administration. Now here comes the clue, some of you missed and im going to stick my neck out by using a plural word, but.... Ok on the subject of Obama....... YES WE KNOW. We know you hate his guts. WE GET THAT. (I'm not a fan either, but it's not like i waste my time ranting about it) Continually restating that you hate obama in new and creative ways does nothing except annoy the crap out of everyone else who isn't in your masturbatory circle of thought. Yes you read me right. By continually posting on the same topic, all your doing, in a figurative sense, is masterbating. All your Obama posts and threads? It's all self gratification to make you feel better, That is ALL your doing. The trouble is, everyone else is the pivot man to your virtual circle jerk regardless if they want to be involved in the topic or not, because it gets pasted all over the place.

03-07-11, 11:23 PM	#14
yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	Well ex cussssssssse me, well if we don't get our heads out of our torpedo tubes there will be a day we turn on our computers, and this site and other beloved places might not be there. regulate, regulate, regulate, and we'll all will be drones.