[REL] Unit damage from smoke and/or fires - Page 2

brett25 · 03-03-11, 01:15 PM

very nice work mate. This was always annoying feature of SH3. This is no small improvement indeed

Since I play with NYGM I will provide any feedback I can. Luckily, I have a save game which has several ships on fire in NYGM. They never sink although they have large fires. I will replay this save and see how things change. Can this be added mid-patrol?

Also how does the game recognize this unique file?

TheDarkWraith · 03-03-11, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by brett25

very nice work mate. This was always annoying feature of SH3. This is no small improvement indeed

Since I play with NYGM I will provide any feedback I can. Luckily, I have a save game which has several ships on fire in NYGM. They never sink although they have large fires. I will replay this save and see how things change. Can this be added mid-patrol?

Also how does the game recognize this unique file?

Can be added/removed at any time.

It recognizes this unique file by magic...no really, I know the file system and it will recognize it

Stiebler · 04-25-11, 09:57 AM

When testing this mod extensively, and the depthcharges disturbance mod, for a new version of NYGM, I found that it was almost impossible to reload any saved game. (Releases of NYGM are tested with a full career.)

The problem of reloading saved games which then cause CTDs is very well known, and can have a number of causes, but I could not reload *any* game created after sighting any enemy unit (sea or air or convoy), evading it to a safe distance, then making a saved game. I could only reload a game saved soon after departing base, when no enemy had yet been seen.

By a tedious process of systematic trial and error, it became clear that it was one or other (or both) of the TDW_Ship_Plane_Fire_Damage_v1.4_SH3 and the TDW_DC_waterdisturbance_V4.0_SH3 that was corrupting the saved game (almost certainly the Ship_Plane_Fire_Dame mod). Once these files were removed, it became possible to save and reload games again - subject to all the usual limitations!

This a great pity, because I think the Ship_Plane_Fire mod is wonderful in operation. But I cannot add it as it stands to NYGM. Sometimes one wants to save one's game.

Has anyone else noted this problem, not necessarily with NYGM?

Stiebler.

A6Intruder · 04-25-11, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Stiebler

When testing this mod extensively, and the depthcharges disturbance mod, for a new version of NYGM, I found that it was almost impossible to reload any saved game. (Releases of NYGM are tested with a full career.)

The problem of reloading saved games which then cause CTDs is very well known, and can have a number of causes, but I could not reload *any* game created after sighting any enemy unit (sea or air or convoy), evading it to a safe distance, then making a saved game. I could only reload a game saved soon after departing base, when no enemy had yet been seen.

By a tedious process of systematic trial and error, it became clear that it was one or other (or both) of the TDW_Ship_Plane_Fire_Damage_v1.4_SH3 and the TDW_DC_waterdisturbance_V4.0_SH3 that was corrupting the saved game (almost certainly the Ship_Plane_Fire_Dame mod). Once these files were removed, it became possible to save and reload games again - subject to all the usual limitations!

This a great pity, because I think the Ship_Plane_Fire mod is wonderful in operation. But I cannot add it as it stands to NYGM. Sometimes one wants to save one's game.

Has anyone else noted this problem, not necessarily with NYGM?

Stiebler.

Hi,
yes i could confirm your words. After my testings with LSH 5.1, in my opinion it has to be: TDW_DC_waterdisturbance_V4.0_SH3 Mod.
I only could reload when no enemy ship was sunk before.
Best regards

fitzcarraldo · 04-25-11, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by slipper

Keep getting a 'file not found' message on filefront. Can somebody confirm please?

regards

slipper

Gamefront works fine.

Many thanks, TDW, you make ours days!

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo

Salvadoreno · 04-26-11, 03:05 AM

Uninstalled both TDW mods. Started a new career, sank a ship. Saved and reloaded. BAM! All good! Thats to bad

TorpLos · 04-19-12, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by slipper

Keep getting a 'file not found' message on filefront. Can somebody confirm please?

regards

slipper

I just got it working.

Hey TDW i could have sworn steibler and the NYGM mod models this. Is it true? I dont want any terrrible mod conflicts.

Wow in 10 minutes the page count rose to 10. lol.. crazy.

TheDarkWraith · 04-19-12, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TorpLos

I just got it working.

Hey TDW i could have sworn steibler and the NYGM mod models this. Is it true? I dont want any terrrible mod conflicts.

Wow in 10 minutes the page count rose to 10. lol.. crazy.

Nope. Noone had ever figured out how to do it until this mod

10-20-23, 12:48 PM

Yet ANOTHER DEAD LINK 404 there are more dead links on here than anywhere else I have tried

John Pancoast · 10-20-23, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by johnboy1958

Yet ANOTHER DEAD LINK 404 there are more dead links on here than anywhere else I have tried

It's an 18 year old game, lucky there's even a forum for it.

This will work for you: https://www.mediafire.com/file_premi...e_v1.4.7z/file

Hans Witteman · 03-03-11, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

Go right ahead

Hi mate,

A thousand thank my friend it will be an honor to add your name in the credits

Best regards Hans

TheDarkWraith · 03-03-11, 10:00 AM

Now what I'm really curious to know is the result of using this with a mod that has improved the damage model (like NYGM, GWX, etc.). The reason is because of the way I made it work should cause flooding on the vessel also besides damage (HP loss). In theory a couple large fires in SH3 with improved damage model could cause the ship to sink due to flooding over time. Can anyone confirm this?

beanodublin · 01-26-13, 02:06 PM

Thanks for this mod its great.

chrysanthos · 03-01-13, 11:18 AM

hey people forget about filefront!! mediafire is the perfect one

John Pancoast · 07-30-19, 07:49 PM

Reviving old thread..............I have 1.4 of this mod. I know he said just use JSGME to apply it, but the .dat file included is labled the same as the mod "Dark Wraith Ship fire......dat"
Obviously there is no .dat file in the game named that, that this file replaces, so how does using JSGME to apply it enable it ? I know it's already in NYGM, but for other mod use, i.e.

03-03-11, 01:15 PM	#1
brett25 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oakland CA, USA Posts: 737 Downloads: 570 Uploads: 0	very nice work mate. This was always annoying feature of SH3. This is no small improvement indeed Since I play with NYGM I will provide any feedback I can. Luckily, I have a save game which has several ships on fire in NYGM. They never sink although they have large fires. I will replay this save and see how things change. Can this be added mid-patrol? Also how does the game recognize this unique file? __________________ http://shmf.larsbundgaard.dk/index.p...1tn5&board=7.0

04-25-11, 09:57 AM	#3
Stiebler Fuel Supplier Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,237 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 4	Saved games may not reload When testing this mod extensively, and the depthcharges disturbance mod, for a new version of NYGM, I found that it was almost impossible to reload any saved game. (Releases of NYGM are tested with a full career.) The problem of reloading saved games which then cause CTDs is very well known, and can have a number of causes, but I could not reload any game created after sighting any enemy unit (sea or air or convoy), evading it to a safe distance, then making a saved game. I could only reload a game saved soon after departing base, when no enemy had yet been seen. By a tedious process of systematic trial and error, it became clear that it was one or other (or both) of the TDW_Ship_Plane_Fire_Damage_v1.4_SH3 and the TDW_DC_waterdisturbance_V4.0_SH3 that was corrupting the saved game (almost certainly the Ship_Plane_Fire_Dame mod). Once these files were removed, it became possible to save and reload games again - subject to all the usual limitations! This a great pity, because I think the Ship_Plane_Fire mod is wonderful in operation. But I cannot add it as it stands to NYGM. Sometimes one wants to save one's game. Has anyone else noted this problem, not necessarily with NYGM? Stiebler. __________________ NYGM Tonnage War Mod - More than a mod: it's an experience!

04-26-11, 03:05 AM	#6
Salvadoreno Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 887 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	Uninstalled both TDW mods. Started a new career, sank a ship. Saved and reloaded. BAM! All good! Thats to bad __________________

01-26-13, 02:06 PM	#13
beanodublin Swabbie Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: liverpool Posts: 7 Downloads: 670 Uploads: 0	SHIP DAMAGE Thanks for this mod its great.

07-30-19, 07:49 PM	#15
John Pancoast Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Minnysoda Posts: 3,211 Downloads: 501 Uploads: 4	Reviving old thread..............I have 1.4 of this mod. I know he said just use JSGME to apply it, but the .dat file included is labled the same as the mod "Dark Wraith Ship fire......dat" Obviously there is no .dat file in the game named that, that this file replaces, so how does using JSGME to apply it enable it ? I know it's already in NYGM, but for other mod use, i.e. __________________ "Realistic" is not always GAME-GOOD." - Wave Skipper

10-20-23, 12:48 PM	#9
johnboy1958 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Yet ANOTHER DEAD LINK 404 there are more dead links on here than anywhere else I have tried

03-03-11, 10:00 AM	#12
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	Now what I'm really curious to know is the result of using this with a mod that has improved the damage model (like NYGM, GWX, etc.). The reason is because of the way I made it work should cause flooding on the vessel also besides damage (HP loss). In theory a couple large fires in SH3 with improved damage model could cause the ship to sink due to flooding over time. Can anyone confirm this?

03-01-13, 11:18 AM	#14
chrysanthos Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: greece Posts: 827 Downloads: 505 Uploads: 0	hey people forget about filefront!! mediafire is the perfect one