Conversation with an Egyptian socialist

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by redsocialist

I'm not a troll, this was a legitimate thread, getting feedback from comrades in the USA until you right wing kooks decided to go in your little Yankee cow-boy anti-communist purges to try to attack me with silly BS. So shut it, or stick to the topic. If you have nothing to say about Egyptian socialists and their situation, then go on one of the other topics and troll. Go start a thread how Obama is a socialist and is "destroying" Amerika. Then you all can group up and take out your frustrations on evil socialism and communism that threatens liberty, freedom, and democracy.

Good day

Tell me how the bottom of the keel looks as you pass by.

Starts clock now.

[redsocialist]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

Tell me how the bottom of the keel looks as you pass by.

Starts clock now.

Grammar FAIL.

[Feuer Frei!]

Originally Posted by redsocialist

I'm not a troll, this was a legitimate thread, getting feedback from comrades in the USA until you right wing kooks decided to go in your little Yankee cow-boy anti-communist purges to try to attack me with silly BS. So shut it, or stick to the topic. If you have nothing to say about Egyptian socialists and their situation, then go on one of the other topics and troll. Go start a thread how Obama is a socialist and is "destroying" Amerika. Then you all can group up and take out your frustrations on evil socialism and communism that threatens liberty, freedom, and democracy.

Good day

You mad bro?

[redsocialist]

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

You mad bro?

I'm fine now...Just aggrevated from idiot right-wing amerikans cherry picking idealogy... Anyways here is the original link again in which this forum topic is to discuss. Here are a few questions

http://socialistworker.org/2011/02/2...tian-socialist

What strategic alliances can the Egyptian working class make during this "transition"?

How strong is the socialist party, and what influence did it play during the brief revolution?

How should other political parties play a role in shaping Egypt new government/economy without collaboration with corrupt institutions?

What are your thoughts on the Mubarak regime?

Okay here's a clean slate, and hopefully we can have a civil discussion/debate for those interested an intelligent conversation.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by redsocialist

Is Washington in flames what you really want?

Native American Genocide 95,000,000

I've addressed that twice now, and still you try to sneak it in.

Okay here's a clean slate, and hopefully we can have a civil discussion/debate for those interested an intelligent conversation.

You attack indescriminately, you insult every one you can, and when it doesn't work you ask for a clean slate and intelligent conversation?

You haven't had an intelligent conversation on this subject yet. I've changed my opinion - you are indeed a childish troll.

[redsocialist]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Is Washington in flames what you really want?

No, but I'm responding back as August just posts a huge pic of Crossing out a hammer and sickle and his anti-communist rehtoric Right after the Texan comrade posted a memo in solidarity with the Eygptian socialists. You should study the thread more closley

[redsocialist]

http://socialistworker.org/2011/02/2...tian-socialist

What strategic alliances can the Egyptian working class make during this "transition"?

How strong is the socialist party, and what influence did it play during the brief revolution?

How should other political parties play a role in shaping Egypt new government/economy without collaboration with corrupt institutions?

What are your thoughts on the Mubarak regime?

[TFatseas]

Originally Posted by redsocialist

I'm not a troll, this was a legitimate thread, getting feedback from comrades in the USA until you right wing kooks decided to go in your little Yankee cow-boy anti-communist purges to try to attack me with silly BS. So shut it, or stick to the topic. If you have nothing to say about Egyptian socialists and their situation, then go on one of the other topics and troll. Go start a thread how Obama is a socialist and is "destroying" Amerika. Then you all can group up and take out your frustrations on evil socialism and communism that threatens liberty, freedom, and democracy.

Good day

Well....bye.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by redsocialist

No, but I'm responding back as August just posts a huge pic of Crossing out a hammer and sickle and his anti-communist rehtoric Right after the Texan comrade posted a memo in solidarity with the Eygptian socialists. You should study the thread more closley

And you're mocking McBee for his grammar?

August has discussed many things intelligently and fairly in the past. His attitude toward you is based on your constant childish prattle about the evils of our country.

A Hammer & Sickle with a line through it is hardly equal to the Capitol of the United States in flames. If you don't want that, don't post it. You shouldn't be talking about anti-Communist rhetoric after the attacks you have staged so many times on this board. You have jumped right into threads trashing the United States, and now you complain about someone doing the same to you, and much less virulently? My opinion of you stands.

You also didn't answer either one of my challenges. Are you avoiding that?

[redsocialist]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

And you're mocking McBee for his grammar?

August has discussed many things intelligently and fairly in the past. His attitude toward you is based on your constant childish prattle about the evils of our country.

A Hammer & Sickle with a line through it is hardly equal to the Capitol of the United States in flames. If you don't want that, don't post it. You shouldn't be talking about anti-Communist rhetoric after the attacks you have staged so many times on this board. You have jumped right into threads trashing the United States, and now you complain about someone doing the same to you, and much less virulently? My opinion of you stands.

You also didn't answer either one of my challenges. Are you avoiding that?

I don't care about your "challenges" I don't care what the rest of you think about me, I made this thread to discuss a certain issue, not personal attacks. I got one feedback then the rest was BS going back and forth. I apologizes if I offended people for criticizingly and in some cases verbally attacking the US government. I'm sorry. I appreciate what the subsim community has done to help me with my problems and figure out challenges to achieve a great immersible experience. For this I am grateful. So lets just knock it off, and post something thats relevent. I'm done arguing. And if you want to continue going back and forth then that just shows that you want to take part in Childish rebutting.

Topics of discussion listed bellow a few threads down------------v

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by redsocialist

I don't care about your "challenges" I don't care what the rest of you think about me, I made this thread to discuss a certain issue, not personal attacks. So lets just knock it off, and post something thats relevent. I'm done arguing.

You posted an out-and-out lie. I exposed it. You did it again. I responded again. In this thread you posted it a third time. You need to answer that.

Secondly, you continually attack the US without rhyme or reason. You can't complain when people treat you in kind.

You need to grow up and treat people with respect. Then you'll see them do the same.

[redsocialist]

You need to grow up and treat people with respect. Then you'll see them do the same.

*sigh* I am grown up and I do treat people with respect, don't start bringing up crap and lecturing me.. I get pissed off when I am personally attacked. I attacked your government thats not the same as an individual person -.-

You sure are quick for a reply. I edited the thread below -.-

[Hottentot]

It's times like these when I'm seriously wondering why I'm writing my master's thesis on Soviet Union's history (Between 1928 - 1945 and times of emerging Stalinism, no less). Guys like the OP really don't make it easier for us who have genuine academic interest in the subject. A cookie to anyone who can guess how many sentences I can usually say about this before someone asks if I'm a communist.

For anyone interested, I recommend finding Chris Ward's "Stalin's Russia" and reading the last chapter. The whole book is good in my opinion, but the last chapter is specifically interesting. Ward dicusses (among other things) the problem of how a historian should approach a subject that is seen by the majority as fundamentally evil and that's crimes are proven and documented. The same problem applies for many other fields, I reckon, like those interested in the Third Reich. The last chapter is only like 2 or 3 pages long, so if you happen to see the book in a library and have a minute to spare, I recommend checking it out.

And as for the OP I have only one thing to say: .

[redsocialist]

Originally Posted by Hottentot

It's times like these when I'm seriously wondering why I'm writing my master's thesis on Soviet Union's history (Between 1928 - 1945 and times of emerging Stalinism, no less). Guys like the OP really don't make it easier for us who have genuine academic interest in the subject. A cookie to anyone who can guess how many sentences I can usually say about this before someone asks if I'm a communist.

Instead of good/evil false paradimes howabout a realist perspective its all about power? Also, there's a good book, called The Russians, which documents everyday/normal day life of russian citizens during the soviet union. Anyways lets try to stick with the forum topic please.

[Hottentot]

Originally Posted by redsocialist

Instead of good/evil false paradimes howabout a realist perspective its all about power?

Now let's see...

1: You rant about evil Amerikans [sic] this and that all the time.

2: After this you come up with "it's not good/evil" argument. Without reading any of what I have written in my thesis, I might add.

3: You keep repeating a few key phrases all the time. Key phrases of which none require higher level of knowledge of the subject than high school's history books. Poorly and selectively read, I might again add.

4: After this you come up with the "realpolitik" argument, which is pretty much the most used argument you can ever come up with when discussing matters like these. Again without reading any of my work and knowing if I have taken the matter in the account.

I remain unimpressed. And on the border between insulted and amused that you assume I haven't decided to take the microhistorical level into account in my research.