Why the "Beta patch" for TMO 2.0 is a Beta

Jeffg · 02-01-11, 11:20 AM

I think your ideas are very valid and go with them. I know that a lot of subs were caught in shallow water and they were able to get away so in game should have the same chance.I would love to have seen Capt America's mod go thru and I have emailed him without replies also.

JeffG

Armistead · 02-01-11, 01:46 PM

I think the issue for many of us is using RSRD. Not sure how it effects aircraft visuals or bomb load, but it obviously does. Simply, the killer planes of TMO alone are nil. After playing RSRD for a few years, I went to TMO alone..and I was back to hating planes, but I miss those, RSRD changes that. Also, never notice any deep dropping bombs until later in the war with RSRD.

I'm to the point of boredom in many aspects and want the game as hard as possible, yet playable. Almost always I can blow entire convoys up at will.

I would rather play the game where I have to really think, wait and attack under the best conditions. This may be daunting for newer players, but my guess is the vets here are sinking 2-3 million tons per career.

I know you hate stacking mods and I'm a mod stacker, but a megamod is ..how many smaller mods in one, hundreds. I sure wish you would make optional mods to go over RSRD to at least use TMO harder settings, if not harder.

I enjoy being in my sub with no cams and charges falling like rain if I goof and get caught in my attack.

Dignan · 02-01-11, 02:16 PM

I voted to incorporate the beta patch changes. I think it provides the best compromise. You can still easily get caught off guard on the surface and with the slower diving times of TMO it makes for some close calls when aircraft are spotted. Incorporate the beta!!!

02-01-11, 02:38 PM

I vote for a change and trust that Duci's change will be an improvement .

Hylander_1314 · 02-01-11, 06:56 PM

I like the idea of the change! TMO has been my mod of choice since I first got back into SH4 2 years ago. Every little tweak that has been added has been great.

I vote to have it added, as I hate assignments in the Java Sea and other places where deep water evasive tactics work.

Ducimus · 02-09-11, 04:22 PM

Well, thats' what id call a landslide vote.

God help me, i started fixing something that's been bugging the piss out of me for a very long time this morning. We'll see how long i last before i burn out again. Right now, all i intend to do is fix minor crap, and finalize the patch.

But i have another dumb question:

That Uboat Radio room i hodgepodged and sliced in. If i were to ever do another full revision update, would you:

A.) miss it if i took it out,

or

b.)would you like to see it expanded on?

I got a hair brain idea on how i might be able to make it into a full on separate compartment. Not sure if it will work, but it might.

Frankly i don't care, if it's in or not. Id just as soon as delete it because it would make things clash less, and use less resources.

Jan Kyster · 02-09-11, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

That Uboat Radio room... would you.. miss it if I took it out...

See, I really need to get out some more. From the command room, I mean. Haven't ever noticed that room...

Now I'm not in a position to give you any advice, but you really should do what you find is working best for you.

I'm certain that 1) you'll never hear any complaints and 2) we're in good hands!

Things flavoured to your taste has always worked very fine. At least for me!

And in case of imminent burn-out danger, here's a cure:

Standing by for shipping out...

razark · 02-09-11, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

That Uboat Radio room i hodgepodged and sliced in. If i were to ever do another full revision update, would you:

A.) miss it if i took it out,

or

b.)would you like to see it expanded on?

I got a hair brain idea on how i might be able to make it into a full on separate compartment. Not sure if it will work, but it might.

I never use it. Perhaps if it actually did something, it would be different, but I don't see any reason to go there, and the u-boat interior in a fleet boat just doesn't quite seem right. I was really hoping to see Captain America's interior someday.

View Poll Results: How should Aircraft visual detection be?
Leave it as it is. Submerged detection is part and parcel of TMO.	8	15.69%
Change it to be a MAD like sensor in late 1944 like the beta patch has already done.	43	84.31%
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02-01-11, 06:56 PM	#5
Hylander_1314 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: 5 Miles Inland West Of Lake Huron Posts: 1,936 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	I like the idea of the change! TMO has been my mod of choice since I first got back into SH4 2 years ago. Every little tweak that has been added has been great. I vote to have it added, as I hate assignments in the Java Sea and other places where deep water evasive tactics work. __________________ A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. -John Marshall Chief Justice of the Supreme Court ---------------------

02-01-11, 11:20 AM	#1
Jeffg Exec Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ponte vedra beach,fl Posts: 249 Downloads: 1661 Uploads: 0	I think your ideas are very valid and go with them. I know that a lot of subs were caught in shallow water and they were able to get away so in game should have the same chance.I would love to have seen Capt America's mod go thru and I have emailed him without replies also. JeffG

02-01-11, 01:46 PM	#2
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I think the issue for many of us is using RSRD. Not sure how it effects aircraft visuals or bomb load, but it obviously does. Simply, the killer planes of TMO alone are nil. After playing RSRD for a few years, I went to TMO alone..and I was back to hating planes, but I miss those, RSRD changes that. Also, never notice any deep dropping bombs until later in the war with RSRD. I'm to the point of boredom in many aspects and want the game as hard as possible, yet playable. Almost always I can blow entire convoys up at will. I would rather play the game where I have to really think, wait and attack under the best conditions. This may be daunting for newer players, but my guess is the vets here are sinking 2-3 million tons per career. I know you hate stacking mods and I'm a mod stacker, but a megamod is ..how many smaller mods in one, hundreds. I sure wish you would make optional mods to go over RSRD to at least use TMO harder settings, if not harder. I enjoy being in my sub with no cams and charges falling like rain if I goof and get caught in my attack.

02-01-11, 02:16 PM	#3
Dignan Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 698 Downloads: 262 Uploads: 0	I voted to incorporate the beta patch changes. I think it provides the best compromise. You can still easily get caught off guard on the surface and with the slower diving times of TMO it makes for some close calls when aircraft are spotted. Incorporate the beta!!!

02-01-11, 02:38 PM	#4
jldjs Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I vote for a change and trust that Duci's change will be an improvement .

02-09-11, 04:22 PM	#6
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Well, thats' what id call a landslide vote. God help me, i started fixing something that's been bugging the piss out of me for a very long time this morning. We'll see how long i last before i burn out again. Right now, all i intend to do is fix minor crap, and finalize the patch. But i have another dumb question: That Uboat Radio room i hodgepodged and sliced in. If i were to ever do another full revision update, would you: A.) miss it if i took it out, or b.)would you like to see it expanded on? I got a hair brain idea on how i might be able to make it into a full on separate compartment. Not sure if it will work, but it might. Frankly i don't care, if it's in or not. Id just as soon as delete it because it would make things clash less, and use less resources.