Can you repair destroyed sistems?

Originally Posted by The General

On a similar subject. In your Magnum Opus Mod, the aircraft do a ludicrous amount of damage to the preassure hull with their machine guns. In realty aircraft did not do much damage to the hull with their machine guns, it's the bombs, depth-charges and torps that were the real threat. How do I adjust this?

Dont mean to troll. but are you sure on this?? because we had a discussion over this in the SH3 thread and the general conclusion (Sailor Steve stated facts) that the damage from machine guns was great, most air craft carried what milimeter rounds?? Way bigger than your average rifle and Id say enough to punch through the hull of the sub though. And one hole in the pressure hull and your sub becomes a really slow and underpowered surface destroyer because it cant dive anymore.

[The General]

Originally Posted by USNSRCaseySmith

Dont mean to troll. but are you sure on this?? because we had a discussion over this in the SH3 thread and the general conclusion (Sailor Steve stated facts) that the damage from machine guns was great, most air craft carried what milimeter rounds?? Way bigger than your average rifle and Id say enough to punch through the hull of the sub though. And one hole in the pressure hull and your sub becomes a really slow and underpowered surface destroyer because it cant dive anymore.

If WWII Hurricane machine guns could penetrate a preassure hull, why would we need modern depleted uranium shells just to penetrate the shell of a tank? Hurricane machine guns were designed to shoot down other planes, made of either thin aluminium or wood and canvass, not several inch thick steel.

IN the game, I was down to 50% preassure-hull damage after a plane made just two passes! That makes all encounters with planes in the Campaign lethal. That's not only unrealistic but it kills the gameplay stone-dead.

Originally Posted by The General

If WWII Hurricane machine guns could penetrate a preassure hull, why would we need modern depleted uranium shells just to penetrate the shell of a tank? Hurricane machine guns were designed to shoot down other planes, made of either thin aluminium or wood and canvass, not several inch thick steel.

IN the game, I was down to 50% preassure-hull damage after a plane made just two passes! That makes all encounters with planes in the Campaign lethal. That's not only unrealistic but it kills the gameplay stone-dead.

Your talking about a tank, and not only that, but a Modern tank. Which is equipped with BETTER armor in the way of metals and better design than probably any US WWII fighting vehicle could have had.

Why do you think subs rather dove than fight a plane, yes they have bombs but the machine guns could rip them apart.


Here, Yes I got this from wikipedia but to each his own.

The Type VIIC/42 was designed in 1942 and 1943 to replace the aging Type VIIC. It would have had a much stronger pressure hull, with skin thickness up to 28 mm.

This means the pressure hull would have been ALMOST an inch thick, easy for rounds to penetrate. Thats why they dove, even against a plane with no bombs, their chances were pretty high they couldnt dive again.

Submarines were built to be able to dive and fire torpedoes, not withstand hundreds of aircraft machinegun rounds.

[Krauter]

Originally Posted by The General

not several inch thick steel.

If I recall, Type VIIC Boat pressure hull was about 3/4 inch thick

Also, many planes (patrol planes and fighters alike) had 20mm cannons for strafing runs. At the very least you lose a lot of your deck crew.

Also, on the topic of mines; if your submarine is travelling submerged (this even applies to modern submarines), and hits a mine. Thus creating a huge gap in your pressure hull, the shockwave being sent through your sub would knock out many electrical systems as well as potentially dislodge or disfigure bulkheads (they're not completely sealed then). With all this in mind, and adding to the sudden change of pressure and a sudden weak spot in the hull at depth, it's safe to say your sub is a goner. That is unless your surfaced. Then I would guess that you have a marginal chance of surviving.

[stoianm]

ok - i agree - it is better if a mine sink a UBOAT - but in this case the watch crew must be able to report them when we are running surface

[Krauter]

How would you be able to spot a black mine sitting underneath the water?

Originally Posted by Krauter

How would you be able to spot a black mine sitting underneath the water?

Taking bernard and tying him to the underside of your U-boat

[Krauter]

about all he's good for