Restricting Violent Speech

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by tater

Military metaphors are normal in politics (and football, for that matter). Suborning a crime is different, but has a pretty high bar.

The sanctity of freedom of expression (particularly political expression) is something all patriotic Americans regardless of party agree on. (and yeah, I'd attack so-called conservatives against flag-burning for being un-American if they wish to curtain that political expression (even if I wanna punch flag-burners, personally, it's their right to do so).

I'm not soo sure. When you're holding political meetings that are to "get on target" to eliminate people from office, i think violence and politics are a bit too closely associated. We have to be careful how close we associate guns, revolution, and vigilantism with our politics. Politics is a way to solve problems WITHOUT violence, and violence is the opposite of what we strive for.

Originally Posted by gimpy117

I'm not soo sure. When you're holding political meetings that are to "get on target" to eliminate people from office, i think violence and politics are a bit too closely associated. We have to be careful how close we associate guns, revolution, and vigilantism with our politics. Politics is a way to solve problems WITHOUT violence, and violence is the opposite of what we strive for.

Violence in speech.....you ask?

Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”
Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”
Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard”
Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“
Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”
Obama to liberal supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”
Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”
Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight.”

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

I'm not soo sure. When you're holding political meetings that are to "get on target" to eliminate people from office, i think violence and politics are a bit too closely associated. We have to be careful how close we associate guns, revolution, and vigilantism with our politics. Politics is a way to solve problems WITHOUT violence, and violence is the opposite of what we strive for.

I have to disagree. I have used the term 'get back on target' or 'getting back on target' countless times in my classroom on the elementary, high school and collegiate levels. It was, and is, a clear metaphor for getting back to focusing on the subject at hand. This is also exactly how it was used at political rallies.

Violence in speech.....you ask?

Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”
Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”
Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard”
Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“
Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”
Obama to liberal supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”
Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”
Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight.”

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I have to disagree. I have used the term 'get back on target' or 'getting back on target' countless times in my classroom on the elementary, high school and collegiate levels. It was, and is, a clear metaphor for getting back to focusing on the subject at hand. This is also exactly how it was used at political rallies.

but you never had guns involved. they were doing actual political events at shooting ranges. So it was a literal statement.