Arizona Congresswoman Shot in the Head at Public Event

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

I was aware of your sarcasm.How can you write that pointing out the fact that the left is exploting this tragedy to advance their agenda constitutes hysterics? Perhaps just because you disagree with me.The left has a pattern of behavior when it comes to exploiting tragedies to advance their agenda and settle scores if possible.Clinton and the left after OKC is a great example.I was young and do not remember but from what I can tell and have read, they tried to peg it on Rush Limbaugh etc

I have mentioned several times that the Right would prob exploit this had the situation been reversed and I also pointed out that it is wrong to exploit this no matter who is on what side.

Just stop. Seriously. You have absolutely nothing to add to any of this.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Just stop. Seriously. You have absolutely nothing to add to any of this.

Yes because you are the judge of it all right? Claim I am biased but you are truly biased.I have plenty to add, just not what you want to hear...

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Yes because you are the judge of it all right? Claim I am biased but you are truly biased.I have plenty to add, just not what you want to hear...

He doesn't claim to be otherwise. You consistently post poorly-written diatribes against one side, and then pay a quick bit of lip-service admitting that "the other side 'prob' does it too". Your comments are in lock-step with the hard-core Right, and you offer nothing in the way of legitimate discussion.

Diatribe is not debate. Mookie's comment was valid and to the point. So far as the political discussions are concerned, you have yet to offer anything real.

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Mookie's comment was valid and to the point. So far as the political discussions are concerned, you have yet to offer anything real.

Why so judgemental?

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by The Third Man

Why so judgemental?

Because the poster in question has a long history of never discussing anything, but rather posting diatribe and then claiming to be central on the issues. That kind of writing really doesn't offer anything.

Judgemental has nothing to do with it. If he offered actual discussion I would respond accordingly, which is exactly what I have done when he's posted on the SH3 boards. When discussing the games he is respectful and earnest, and that's exactly the way I treat him. My comments here are only related to his comments here.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Yes because you are the judge of it all right? Claim I am biased but you are truly biased.I have plenty to add, just not what you want to hear...

Your behavior in this thread is especially offensive given the senseless tragedy that occurred. You're using people's deaths to engage in polemics and attempting to play the victim card for your "side". That's a slap in the face to the true victims here.

Have you opened your eyes and seen the world without looking through the lens of the far right? Can you think for yourself instead of taking the shortcut of having someone "analyze the news" and spoon feed you what you should be thinking? Honestly, have you ever objectively read something that conflicted with what you thought you knew the day before? Did it change your mind? Is your mind open to change? Can you get over your confirmation bias and achieve critical thinking?

Or do you read Hannity's blog, or Red State or a bunch of blogs written by people who believe the same things you do, and say that's it, I've got it all figured out. I'm educated, my eyes are wide open. Guess what - you don't, you're not, and they aint. Your comments are inflammatory and shallow and expose you for the political hack you are.

But there is hope. You can educate yourself. But you have to be prepared for some discomfort. You have to be prepared to accept certain ideas. The idea that YOU MAY BE WRONG. And everyone you read MIGHT BE WRONG.

You could do these things and then have something to offer when talking about politics here. But I doubt it. And the worst part is you vote. God help us all.

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Your behavior in this thread is especially offensive given the senseless tragedy that occurred. You're using people's deaths to engage in polemics and attempting to play the victim card for your "side". That's a slap in the face to the true victims here.

Have you opened your eyes and seen the world without looking through the lens of the far right? Can you think for yourself instead of taking the shortcut of having someone "analyze the news" and spoon feed you what you should be thinking? Honestly, have you ever objectively read something that conflicted with what you thought you knew the day before? Did it change your mind? Is your mind open to change? Can you get over your confirmation bias and achieve critical thinking?

Or do you read Hannity's blog, or Red State or a bunch of blogs written by people who believe the same things you do, and say that's it, I've got it all figured out. I'm educated, my eyes are wide open. Guess what - you don't, you're not, and they aint. Your comments are inflammatory and shallow and expose you for the political hack you are.

But there is hope. You can educate yourself. But you have to be prepared for some discomfort. You have to be prepared to accept certain ideas. The idea that YOU MAY BE WRONG. And everyone you read MIGHT BE WRONG.

You could do these things and then have something to offer when talking about politics here. But I doubt it. And the worst part is you vote. God help us all.

I see even the left didn't heed Obama's message .. to talk with each other "in a way that heals, not in a way that wounds."

Good, now we can get on with the conflict of vision.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by The Third Man

I see even the left didn't heed Obama's message .. to talk with each other "in a way that heals, not in a way that wounds."

Good, now we can get on with the conflict of vision.

[geetrue]

mookiemookie and bubblehead can see each others view point better due to the opposition of sides.

They are simply weighing what they think and say on their scales of righteousness.

It is not for us to judge, but stop and think aren't you guys better off with having to exercise what you think.

Don't let it get to you just see the blessings in being able to freely express yourselves without offending the unpaid volunteers who monitor the halls here.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by The Third Man

I see even the left didn't heed Obama's message .. to talk with each other "in a way that heals, not in a way that wounds."

Good, now we can get on with the conflict of vision.

lol typical for his type to get personal because they know they are wrong and can not make substantive arguments, so they attempt to trash someone personally, then complain when their feelings get hurt.Rather amusing actually

[August]

[tater]

The police records for his previous insanity:
http://www.dailynews.com/breakingnews/ci_17079366

We had a guy in E&M who was totally nuts. I looked at his notes a few times, and while derivations of Maxwell's Equations can look pretty, erm, greek, his notes were clearly unrelated to the class and "crazy" just from a glance (some stuff looked more like runes or hieroglyphs). He asked non-sequiter questions, etc. One day he missed class, and the prof told all of us to watch him, and be prepared to tackle him if he came with a gun or something. We all watched him very carefully. Scary to see those reports and how similar they are to my experience with a nut in class.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Your behavior in this thread is especially offensive given the senseless tragedy that occurred. You're using people's deaths to engage in polemics and attempting to play the victim card for your "side". That's a slap in the face to the true victims here.

Have you opened your eyes and seen the world without looking through the lens of the far right? Can you think for yourself instead of taking the shortcut of having someone "analyze the news" and spoon feed you what you should be thinking? Honestly, have you ever objectively read something that conflicted with what you thought you knew the day before? Did it change your mind? Is your mind open to change? Can you get over your confirmation bias and achieve critical thinking?

Or do you read Hannity's blog, or Red State or a bunch of blogs written by people who believe the same things you do, and say that's it, I've got it all figured out. I'm educated, my eyes are wide open. Guess what - you don't, you're not, and they aint. Your comments are inflammatory and shallow and expose you for the political hack you are.

But there is hope. You can educate yourself. But you have to be prepared for some discomfort. You have to be prepared to accept certain ideas. The idea that YOU MAY BE WRONG. And everyone you read MIGHT BE WRONG.

You could do these things and then have something to offer when talking about politics here. But I doubt it. And the worst part is you vote. God help us all.

Wow you get personal on here pretty often, kind of amusing.Not worth a l response other than to point out that it is typical leftist behavior to personally attack someone who disagrees instead of engaging in a genuine debate.I am sure that if you could respond and tell me how the left is not exploiting this tragedy, you would.However, you and I both know(as does everyone else) that you can not because they have been since 30 minutes after this story broke last Saturday.

Bottom line....since you could not offer a legitimate rebuttle, you decided to attack me personally.Again, this does not shock me or bother me really, just amuses me in addition to letting me know you had no response.Again, typical lefty behavior.


Once again, the point of my original post was the left are exploiting this tragedy for political gain, it is disgusting

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Wow you get personal on here pretty often, kind of amusing.Not worth a l response other than to point out that it is typical leftist behavior to personally attack someone who disagrees instead of engaging in a genuine debate.I am sure that if you could respond and tell me how the left is not exploiting this tragedy, you would.However, you and I both know(as does everyone else) that you can not because they have been since 30 minutes after this story broke last Saturday.

Bottom line....since you could not offer a legitimate rebuttle, you decided to attack me personally.Again, this does not shock me or bother me really, just amuses me in addition to letting me know you had no response.Again, typical lefty behavior.


Once again, the point of my original post was the left are exploiting this tragedy for political gain, it is disgusting

I ask if you're capable of seeing things without classifying the world in terms of left vs. right, us vs. them, cowboys vs. indians, Red Sox vs. Yankees, my opinion vs. wrong....

...and you call me a lefty. I now have my answer.

I'll drop this whole thing, but I'll leave you with this - don't you find it troubling that some of the most level headed and well respected folks around here have chided you?

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I ask if you're capable of seeing things without classifying the world in terms of left vs. right, us vs. them, cowboys vs. indians, Red Sox vs. Yankees, my opinion vs. wrong....

...and you call me a lefty. I now have my answer.

I'll drop this whole thing, but I'll leave you with this - don't you find it troubling that some of the most level headed and well respected folks around here have chided you?

I am capable of seeing things outside the us vs them thing.However, we are talking politics, groups of people who share basic core values vs others who share different values.The call for bipartisanship is crap because it essentially means "sacrifice your values" to make you enemy happy, sorry but that is what has lead us to this situation our nation is in.I noticed that you usually seem to take left leaning positions, so yes called you a lefty.

No, I do not find it troubling that certain people on here have chided me.While I respect them and usually get along with them on here, does not make me wrong and them right.There has been countless times in history where the majority or certain well respected blah blah were seen as being right and later it turned out the other guy was right and they were wrong.This occurs on the grand stage of history as well as in everyday situations.I can think of several occasions in my life when everyone said I was wrong etc etc and later on I was proven to have been correct.I believe in standing up for what I know is right even when everyone is telling me I am wrong.A large part of the problem in our society is people do not stand up for what they believe in, they go along to get along.Now if there is evidence or logic etc to convince me I am not above changing my view on something.

Seems the big issue was they felt I was playing politics and honestly I was NOT.I was making a statement about how the political left in this country started exploiting the tragedy for political gain and I also said the right would most likely do the same if the situation were reversed.I also posted my educated opinion(I've studied the political left in this nation quite a bit, know they enemy sort of thing lol) on what they will try to gain out of this as far as gun control and limiting speech goes.They took offense to this and well that is not my problem.This is a discussion forum after all.I was not playing politics though, just discussing the possible ramifications of this tragedy and certain members did not care for that.