Arizona Congresswoman Shot in the Head at Public Event

gimpy117 · 01-10-11, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSatyr

Hell,people should go to the Yahoo forums on this. The far left are having a total and complete meltdown over this tragedy.

and some republicans are facebook are saying its good shes "out of the way"

it goes both ways. random nuts on the internet do not an entire party make

Ducimus · 01-10-11, 05:41 PM

After reading only the first two pages, and then in disgust, glossing over to the last three pages of this thread to see what direction it went, I can think of only ONE response, and it is this:

Not so dear die hard politico's of the left and right persuasion:
Screw you both. The whole country could (and probably will) crumble down around you, but the only thing anyone can count on from either of you, is for both of you pointing the finger at the other assigning blame. All the while maintaining the "innocence" and "purity" of your favorite team (R or D) or favorite direction (Left or right). So screw you both, and the horse you rode in on.

DarkFish · 01-10-11, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

After reading only the first two pages, and then in disgust, glossing over to the last three pages of this thread to see what direction it went, I can think of only ONE response, and it is this:

Not so dear die hard politico's of the left and right persuasion:
Screw you both. The whole country could (and probably will) crumble down around you, but the only thing anyone can count on from either of you, is for both of you pointing the finger at the other assigning blame. All the while maintaining the "innocence" and "purity" of your favorite team (R or D) or favorite direction (Left or right). So screw you both, and the horse you rode in on.

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

I was in fact pointing out how the left is already using this tragedy to blame those who oppose Obama/Progressive agenda.

You really should start to read some of the posts in this thread. Like for example the one from Ducimus I just quoted

Kongo Otto · 01-10-11, 06:49 PM

Most of the Posters in this thread should seriously think about this:

Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, Let me take the speck out of your eye, when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

Matthew 7, 3-5

Subnuts · 01-10-11, 07:22 PM

Why can't some of you folks just wait until after the bodies have cooled off before using a tragedy to promote your personal political viewpoint? Six people are dead, a nine-year old girl was murdered in cold blood, and the first thing to pop into your heads are "FU Sarah Palin!" or "hurrr... I wonder how the sociobommucrats the gonna spin this one!"

Jesus Christ on a pogo stick.

Platapus · 01-10-11, 07:28 PM

Read an interesting commentary today on this issue.

When we had the Fort Hood shooting, people went out of their way, and IMO rightly so, to point out that this was a single nut job who happened to be Muslim. It was not a Muslim thing, it was a nut job thing.

Well if that attitude was correct for that case, then why is the AZ shooting any different. As far as we know so far (and we do NOT know all the facts) this was a single nut job who happened to shoot a congresswomen who was the target of some political rhetoric.

We still have no proof this is anything but a nut job.

Until some facts and not just coincidence comes to light, it must remain just another nutter committing a terrible crime.

Emotionally, some may want to make connections or not make connections. Well that's human nature. But logically, nothing has been demonstrated yet.

One should never confuse emotional feelings with logical thought.

I am waiting for all the facts to be discovered before opining.

Armistead · 01-10-11, 08:04 PM

Fox just mentioned the Ft. Hood shooting and how Obama and many of the same Congressmen stated to slow down, don't jump to conclusions because he was muslim....A muslim attacking a military base and we shouldn't expect he did it because he was muslim so calm down....he may just be a nut.

It is becoming sickening how the left is pushing it for political gain. What a discredit to Gabby. This nut has been chasing Gabby for 3 years now.

mookiemookie · 01-10-11, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

It is becoming sickening how the left is pushing it for political gain. What a discredit to Gabby. This nut has been chasing Gabby for 3 years now.

Where you wrong is thinking it's just one side or another is pushing this for political gain. Anyone that does it, and it's both sides, is a disgusting human being.

The one time you'll probably ever see me agree with Gold coin Beck is when he says: "Turning these horrific events into an opportunity for a political attack is a very childish response to a very grown-up problem. This is not about winning a political blame game."

Sailor Steve · 01-11-11, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkFish

You really should start to read some of the posts in this thread. Like for example the one from Ducimus I just quoted

Unfortunately there will always be shallow, arrogant people who are incapable of actual discussion. They come from all sides of every argument, and the bottom line of everything they have to say can be summed up in one simple phrase:

"I'm right and you're stupid!"

Captain Vlad · 01-10-11, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

After reading only the first two pages, and then in disgust, glossing over to the last three pages of this thread to see what direction it went, I can think of only ONE response, and it is this:

Not so dear die hard politico's of the left and right persuasion:
Screw you both. The whole country could (and probably will) crumble down around you, but the only thing anyone can count on from either of you, is for both of you pointing the finger at the other assigning blame. All the while maintaining the "innocence" and "purity" of your favorite team (R or D) or favorite direction (Left or right). So screw you both, and the horse you rode in on.

Amen.

Platapus · 01-10-11, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

After reading only the first two pages, and then in disgust, glossing over to the last three pages of this thread to see what direction it went, I can think of only ONE response, and it is this:

Not so dear die hard politico's of the left and right persuasion:
Screw you both. The whole country could (and probably will) crumble down around you, but the only thing anyone can count on from either of you, is for both of you pointing the finger at the other assigning blame. All the while maintaining the "innocence" and "purity" of your favorite team (R or D) or favorite direction (Left or right). So screw you both, and the horse you rode in on.

Party before country also applies to some citizens, not just politicians.

It is sad when some people can not deal with life in terms other than a political "us vs. them" concept.

Your thoughts represent exactly why I became an Independent. I am not a Republican nor a Democrat, but an American.

However, I must strongly object to your last statement. I think it was totally inappropriate...... I like horses.

nikimcbee · 01-10-11, 08:32 PM

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I am not a Republican nor a Democrat, but an American.

Here Here!

Freiwillige · 01-10-11, 08:36 PM

Father of nine year old killed doesn't want politicians to use her as an excuse to restrict Americans freedoms.

gimpy117 · 01-10-11, 08:42 PM

I don't think freedoms are going to be limited, But i think we need to first take a look at the violence in this nation, and second our support systems for the mentally ill, like this kid. He shouldn't have slipped through the cracks. If somebody would have noticed and helped this kid, this would never have happened.

tater · 01-10-11, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gimpy117

I don't think freedoms are going to be limited, But i think we need to first take a look at the violence in this nation, and second our support systems for the mentally ill, like this kid. He shouldn't have slipped through the cracks. If somebody would have noticed and helped this kid, this would never have happened.

Helping the mentally ill is very difficult. You can lock them up, or not. If you favor removing their liberty, then the problem is soluble. If they are to not be institutionalized, it becomes pretty much impossible. People with serious, organic mental illness can only sometimes be treated effectively with meds (and nothing else works at all on issues like schizophrenia). Those that are effectively treated very often take themselves off the drugs as soon as they feel better (since the drugs have terrible side-effects), and without the drugs, it's a nonstop ride back to crazytown.

01-10-11, 07:22 PM	#5
Subnuts The Old Man Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,658 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Why can't some of you folks just wait until after the bodies have cooled off before using a tragedy to promote your personal political viewpoint? Six people are dead, a nine-year old girl was murdered in cold blood, and the first thing to pop into your heads are "FU Sarah Palin!" or "hurrr... I wonder how the sociobommucrats the gonna spin this one!" Jesus Christ on a pogo stick. __________________ My Amazon.com reviews

01-10-11, 07:28 PM	#6
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,362 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Read an interesting commentary today on this issue. When we had the Fort Hood shooting, people went out of their way, and IMO rightly so, to point out that this was a single nut job who happened to be Muslim. It was not a Muslim thing, it was a nut job thing. Well if that attitude was correct for that case, then why is the AZ shooting any different. As far as we know so far (and we do NOT know all the facts) this was a single nut job who happened to shoot a congresswomen who was the target of some political rhetoric. We still have no proof this is anything but a nut job. Until some facts and not just coincidence comes to light, it must remain just another nutter committing a terrible crime. Emotionally, some may want to make connections or not make connections. Well that's human nature. But logically, nothing has been demonstrated yet. One should never confuse emotional feelings with logical thought. I am waiting for all the facts to be discovered before opining. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

01-10-11, 08:42 PM	#14
gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	I don't think freedoms are going to be limited, But i think we need to first take a look at the violence in this nation, and second our support systems for the mentally ill, like this kid. He shouldn't have slipped through the cracks. If somebody would have noticed and helped this kid, this would never have happened. __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

01-10-11, 05:41 PM	#2
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	After reading only the first two pages, and then in disgust, glossing over to the last three pages of this thread to see what direction it went, I can think of only ONE response, and it is this: Not so dear die hard politico's of the left and right persuasion: Screw you both. The whole country could (and probably will) crumble down around you, but the only thing anyone can count on from either of you, is for both of you pointing the finger at the other assigning blame. All the while maintaining the "innocence" and "purity" of your favorite team (R or D) or favorite direction (Left or right). So screw you both, and the horse you rode in on.

01-10-11, 06:49 PM	#4
Kongo Otto Commodore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Augsburg / Germany Posts: 631 Downloads: 203 Uploads: 0	Most of the Posters in this thread should seriously think about this: Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, Let me take the speck out of your eye, when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. Matthew 7, 3-5

01-10-11, 08:04 PM	#7
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Fox just mentioned the Ft. Hood shooting and how Obama and many of the same Congressmen stated to slow down, don't jump to conclusions because he was muslim....A muslim attacking a military base and we shouldn't expect he did it because he was muslim so calm down....he may just be a nut. It is becoming sickening how the left is pushing it for political gain. What a discredit to Gabby. This nut has been chasing Gabby for 3 years now.

01-10-11, 08:36 PM	#13
Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Father of nine year old killed doesn't want politicians to use her as an excuse to restrict Americans freedoms.