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Old 12-15-10, 12:20 PM   #1
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Yes at night or in poor visibility conditions, could easily something like that happen,
That has happened to me on many an occasion. Just because a ship is unlit at night, does not mean its neutral
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Old 12-15-10, 12:32 PM   #2
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Whoops, I did mean 1941. Now it's 1942, so all dark ships are fair game.

That big 5-inch gun looked threatening. So of course I sank her! And now I'm editing my ini to say neutrals are neutral points. There.

And attacking or sinking a hospital ship is one of the biggest jerk moves you can pull off, in my books. But they sound so much like ocean liners on the froo froo...
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Old 12-16-10, 08:53 AM   #3
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[QUOTE]And attacking or sinking a hospital ship is one of the biggest jerk moves you can pull off, in my books.[/QUOTE

If you sink one (even mistakenly), its career over.
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Old 12-17-10, 12:51 AM   #4
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I have no intension to attack a hospital ship , but Neutrals are supposed to be Neutrals. Calling in air support is a direct violation of the neutrality rules , but this is not scripted in the game.

Perhaps a modder can make such a mod....
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Old 12-17-10, 01:19 AM   #5
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That has happened to me on many an occasion. Just because a ship is unlit at night, does not mean its neutral
I joined those ranks awhile back.

It's annoying sometimes when I sink an unlit neutral. I try not to fire without giving a proper visual inspection, but every so often I trick myself into thinking that a quick shot will result in sending the enemy to the bottom.

The worst is when the soup closes in and I can't see anything beyond a couple hundred meters. Sank a few neutrals that way, too. Blasted weather.
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Old 12-17-10, 01:33 AM   #6
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I joined those ranks awhile back.

It's annoying sometimes when I sink an unlit neutral. I try not to fire without giving a proper visual inspection, but every so often I trick myself into thinking that a quick shot will result in sending the enemy to the bottom.

The worst is when the soup closes in and I can't see anything beyond a couple hundred meters. Sank a few neutrals that way, too. Blasted weather.
That kind of events can at worst be unavoidable,
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I joined those ranks awhile back.

It's annoying sometimes when I sink an unlit neutral. I try not to fire without giving a proper visual inspection, but every so often I trick myself into thinking that a quick shot will result in sending the enemy to the bottom.

The worst is when the soup closes in and I can't see anything beyond a couple hundred meters. Sank a few neutrals that way, too. Blasted weather.

Sure...blame the weather
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Sure...blame the weather

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Its there fault for not being lit up for the world to see, there just asking for trouble with no lights on.
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Sure...blame the weather
Unless Bernard is manning the con tower
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If they're armed, I'll take 'em down. It's that simple. Having a deck gun is proof that they are not going to be happy if I pop up next to them and offer them some butterbrot.
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I just sank my first neutral ship, on what is quickly turning into the worst patrol ever. I was off the Azores at my patrol point and found zilch, so headed over to Gibralta to catch any traffic coming out of the Med. I chased a convoy heading north and sank a couple of ships for 6 shots fired (boo) and then got slapped about by the escorts, so turned back to Gib to look for stragglers. On a moonless night out sails a darkened large merchant with no lights, and there's no way I can see his flag even in the external camera. One torp under his keel and he eventually sank, but it turned out he was Spanish. Why no lights, the bloody idiot!
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I sunk a neutral today in broad daylight on a calm sea in a convoy. Not my fault the bloody moron decided to turn straight in to my T1 ell which was on its way to hit a large tanker.

Man I was...
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On a moonless night out sails a darkened large merchant with no lights, and there's no way I can see his flag even in the external camera. One torp under his keel and he eventually sank, but it turned out he was Spanish. Why no lights, the bloody idiot!
I recall reading somewhere that the game pre-generates the spawn list of all the ships you can encounter when you initially start a patrol. So if a country switches from neutral to enemy status during the patrol, the game may not register that until you get back to port. Thus you may see lit enemy ships or even dark neutral ships.

Feel free to correct me.
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Old 12-19-10, 02:19 PM   #15
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If they're armed, I'll take 'em down. It's that simple. Having a deck gun is proof that they are not going to be happy if I pop up next to them and offer them some butterbrot.
Don't matter if they are armed or not....try it and if the vessel is classified as a neutral (an American DD for example in early days) you will not be fired upon.
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