I'm not sure I ever made an introduction yet.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Solace

There's only like 1 and that's in Illinois. There are several reason 99% of all schools don't have them.

95% of New Orleans’ public schools require uniforms
85% of Cleveland’s public schools require uniforms
80% of Chicago’s public schools require uniforms
65% of Boston’s public schools require uniforms
60% of Miami’s public schools require uniforms
50% of Cincinnati’s public schools require uniforms

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

95% of New Orleans’ public schools require uniforms
85% of Cleveland’s public schools require uniforms
80% of Chicago’s public schools require uniforms
65% of Boston’s public schools require uniforms
60% of Miami’s public schools require uniforms
50% of Cincinnati’s public schools require uniforms

You listed urban schools. City schools are completely different from rural and suburban schools. Most people who live in cities come from very low class African American families. You know, the 'hood.

We did a poll at my school to see how people would feel about school uniforms. Every single person said that they would hate it and it wouldn't work.

[razark]

Kid, you're 18. You don't know everything, you just think you do. Things are a lot different in the real world than they are in the world in your head.

That's why we don't let 13-17 year olds vote and sign contracts.

Originally Posted by razark

Kid, you're 18. You don't know everything, you just think you do. Things are a lot different in the real world than they are in the world in your head.

That's why we don't let 13-17 year olds vote and sign contracts.

But we do let them join forums and so they can join and participate in this VERY DISCUSSION, and I can only imagine that they'd pick my side.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Solace

But we do let them join forums and so they can join and participate in this VERY DISCUSSION, and I can only imagine that they'd pick my side.

They'd pick your side for exactly the reason razark stated - they have no understanding of how the real world works.

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

They'd pick your side for exactly the reason razark stated - they have no understanding of how the real world works.

In the real world colleges don't require school uniforms. Your logic is flawed.

[Krauter]

Originally Posted by Solace

But we do let them join forums and so they can join and participate in this VERY DISCUSSION, and I can only imagine that they'd pick my side.

I'm 18 also, and reading the sh!t you're spewing makes me realize why most people on internet forums think teens are such angsty gits. Man get a grip on reality outside of your own little world and grow up.

Edit: And quit using double posts to get your post count up.. makes your trolling even more obvious. There's a edit function for a reason

Originally Posted by Krauter

I'm 18 also, and reading the sh!t you're spewing makes me realize why most people on internet forums think teens are such angsty gits. Man get a grip on reality outside of your own little world and grow up.

Edit: And quit using double posts to get your post count up.. makes your trolling even more obvious. There's a edit function for a reason

Most people on internet forums are teens. Just not on Subsim.

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by Krauter

I'm 18 also, and reading the sh!t you're spewing makes me realize why most people on internet forums think teens are such angsty gits. Man get a grip on reality outside of your own little world and grow up.

Don't worry Krauter, I think most people can differ and judge someone by the words they say and by the things they have in their mind and brain, not by their physical age.

[Radtgaeb]

Originally Posted by Solace

You listed urban schools. City schools are completely different from rural and suburban schools. Most people who live in cities come from very low class African American families. You know, the 'hood.

And how does this affect your argument/the arguments of anyone else?

Originally Posted by Radtgaeb

And how does this affect your argument/the arguments of anyone else?

I'm just saying, you can't compare the poor to the middle and upper classes. Just like you can't compare the middle to the upper class.

[Radtgaeb]

Originally Posted by Solace

I'm just saying, you can't compare the poor to the middle and upper classes. Just like you can't compare the middle to the upper class.

We're not talking about tax brackets, we're discussing uniform policy. Apples and oranges.

A student is a student is a student. Regardless of income bracket, teenagers are going to be teenagers. Distractions are distractions. Cliques are cliques. Geographic location/income differentials will play in the population count of each clique...but they're going to be there.

The advent of a uniform policy defends against the outward display of clique affiliation (being an intern in the police department of the city I attend college at, I think "gang affiliation"); cutting down on propensity for distraction in the form of scuffles or heated argument/verbal disagreements. It can also be argued that a uniform policy would protect against the possibility of teachers showing preference for upper-class students...the difference would be less obvious because everyone would be wearing the same clothes, same colors. Because, let's face it, most of us tend to think more highly of well-dressed individuals, no?

Originally Posted by Radtgaeb

We're not talking about tax brackets, we're discussing uniform policy. Apples and oranges.

A student is a student is a student. Regardless of income bracket, teenagers are going to be teenagers. Distractions are distractions. Cliques are cliques. Geographic location/income differentials will play in the population count of each clique...but they're going to be there.

The advent of a uniform policy defends against the outward display of clique affiliation (being an intern in the police department of the city I attend college at, I think "gang affiliation"); cutting down on propensity for distraction in the form of scuffles or heated argument/verbal disagreements. It can also be argued that a uniform policy would protect against the possibility of teachers showing preference for upper-class students...the difference would be less obvious because everyone would be wearing the same clothes, same colors. Because, let's face it, most of us tend to think more highly of well-dressed individuals, no?

The poor people have school uniforms usually because they can't afford clothing.

[Radtgaeb]

Originally Posted by Solace

The poor people have school uniforms usually because they can't afford clothing.

Nice attempt at the use of ethos/pathos. Unfortunately it's ineffective...don't use the suffering of others to mask your own interests.