Stuck in the middle of the ocean...

Elektroniikka-Asentaja · 11-29-10, 01:08 PM

Yeah.. Read the title and you'll see all you need to know..

So, background:

I was doing the second mission of Asiatic fleet S-18 boat, the one where you need to go to take photos about Japanese carriers in Manila. Everything went well, I sank 4 merchants in the way to the Philippines but faced some problems there, I sank 3 Akizuki destroyers, no problem as usual but then there came some other destroyer, one step smaller, 2300 tons or something. I shot a torpedo at it, hit from 3500 metres

(and noticed that Mark-10 Torpedos have maximum shooting length of 4000 metres, wasted one torp by shooting from too far first..) The destroyer was nicely crippled, they stopped and had a nice hole in their ship, I thought that I'll quickly finish it off with the deck gun.. Then everything started to go horribly wrong, normally they shoot over me because their guns are meant for shooting aircraft or other battleships, not submarines. This time their ship was swimming about a meter lower than normally and all those "too high jap, learn to aim" shots hit

I lost 5 crew members and my whole boat was ready for scrap metal yard.

Here is the problem, after I took heavy beating from the destroyer I was unable to get to periscope depth, either I was surfaced or at the bottom. Here I was lucky, I was fighting in the bad place, water was about 20 meters deep so I had no problem in lying at the bottom. I managed to sink the destroyer and get my ass to the photo area, even if it was heavily mined and had a "fence" in the water for submarines. Nothing happened there, no photos taken so I sank the 2 carriers I had to photograph (epic fail?) but then I figured out that I'm screwed.

I'm at the Philippines now, I can't move on surface because I have (only ONE though) diesel engine damaged, I can't dive anywhere else than to bottom and my crew are all in pretty bad shape. I have perhaps 5 guys who aren't injured.

Any good hints? And BTW, how to take those photos?

Jan Kyster · 11-29-10, 06:28 PM

- but your rudder works, right?
Perhaps you could join forces with skipper Jack Cutter if he's still in the vicinity....

Stuck or stranded! I'm shocked!

For photos lock on target with Obs-scope and use button on the command bar.

BadSeed · 11-30-10, 12:40 AM

I headed out after a refit and ran into a convoy so I saved and went all out.

Wiped out the lot of 'em and was lucky to be left only stranded but with heavy casualties.

Alas, I called and called but no one came

Elektroniikka-Asentaja · 11-30-10, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jan Kyster

- but your rudder works, right?
Perhaps you could join forces with skipper Jack Cutter if he's still in the vicinity....

Stuck or stranded! I'm shocked!

For photos lock on target with Obs-scope and use button on the command bar.

Yeah rudder works, both surfaced and underwater.. I've managed to move a bit by diving - ahead flank - surface but if i need to use it to get back to Java it'll be damn long trip..

I saw somewhere that having healthy crew members in command helps if you can't dive.. Can someone cofirm this or is it just good luck and abusing bugs?

About the photos... Both carriers are lting in the bottom now.. Little aggression came in when I was unable to move

thanks for help

WernherVonTrapp · 11-30-10, 07:11 AM

Forgive me if this seems like a silly question but, did you activate your damage control team? Also, what mods (if any) are you running?
I'm not absolutely certain about this but, if even one of your deisel engines is damaged, I think you're kaput.

Elektroniikka-Asentaja · 11-30-10, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WernherVonTrapp

Forgive me if this seems like a silly question but, did you activate your damage control team? Also, what mods (if any) are you running?
I'm not absolutely certain about this but, if even one of your deisel engines is damaged, I think you're kaput.

Yes I have my damage control team, thou I don't have maximum amount of members in it to secure other stuff (because I already lost 5 members in destroyer attack). I don't have any mods because I want to first play at least one career in vanilla and yet I haven't faced any big reasons/bugs to get any mods.

Is there any ways to get diesel engine which is epically damaged repaired without limping to some port first? I consider my position as safe as possible because Manila trait was heavily mined so at meast very big ships will have a problem in getting in there..

Armistead · 11-30-10, 11:55 AM

Are you making any speed at all. Also, if you save and reload the damage screen will clear, but damage remains. SH4 is built off SH3 which uses two engines, even though it shows having four, we really have two. The damage zones are poorly done in stock, you can often lose engines, rudders, planes and just get stuck, most megamods correct these issues.
If damage isn't clearing, probably destroyed.

Some go back and edit saved files to repair.

Take it like a man....start a new career.

Elektroniikka-Asentaja · 11-30-10, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armistead

Are you making any speed at all. Also, if you save and reload the damage screen will clear, but damage remains. SH4 is built off SH3 which uses two engines, even though it shows having four, we really have two. The damage zones are poorly done in stock, you can often lose engines, rudders, planes and just get stuck, most megamods correct these issues.
If damage isn't clearing, probably destroyed.

Some go back and edit saved files to repair.

Take it like a man....start a new career.

No, I'm totally still, the propellers aren't moving at all when I'm surfaced.

Starting a new career wouldn't be a big issue since I've only done 2 missions now in the Asiatic fleet career.. I just don't want to lose my boat and my crew which includes Jake F. Skywalker

Armistead · 11-30-10, 02:18 PM

Game over.....You may want to try TMO with Training Wheels as a mod to start with if the harder supermods scare ya..

11-29-10, 01:08 PM	#1
Elektroniikka-Asentaja Loader Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Hiding from Dowly Posts: 81 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Stuck in the middle of the ocean... Yeah.. Read the title and you'll see all you need to know.. So, background: I was doing the second mission of Asiatic fleet S-18 boat, the one where you need to go to take photos about Japanese carriers in Manila. Everything went well, I sank 4 merchants in the way to the Philippines but faced some problems there, I sank 3 Akizuki destroyers, no problem as usual but then there came some other destroyer, one step smaller, 2300 tons or something. I shot a torpedo at it, hit from 3500 metres (and noticed that Mark-10 Torpedos have maximum shooting length of 4000 metres, wasted one torp by shooting from too far first..) The destroyer was nicely crippled, they stopped and had a nice hole in their ship, I thought that I'll quickly finish it off with the deck gun.. Then everything started to go horribly wrong, normally they shoot over me because their guns are meant for shooting aircraft or other battleships, not submarines. This time their ship was swimming about a meter lower than normally and all those "too high jap, learn to aim" shots hit I lost 5 crew members and my whole boat was ready for scrap metal yard. Here is the problem, after I took heavy beating from the destroyer I was unable to get to periscope depth, either I was surfaced or at the bottom. Here I was lucky, I was fighting in the bad place, water was about 20 meters deep so I had no problem in lying at the bottom. I managed to sink the destroyer and get my ass to the photo area, even if it was heavily mined and had a "fence" in the water for submarines. Nothing happened there, no photos taken so I sank the 2 carriers I had to photograph (epic fail?) but then I figured out that I'm screwed. I'm at the Philippines now, I can't move on surface because I have (only ONE though) diesel engine damaged, I can't dive anywhere else than to bottom and my crew are all in pretty bad shape. I have perhaps 5 guys who aren't injured. Any good hints? And BTW, how to take those photos?

11-30-10, 07:11 AM	#5
WernherVonTrapp Admiral Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Now, alot farther from NYC. Posts: 2,228 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	Forgive me if this seems like a silly question but, did you activate your damage control team? Also, what mods (if any) are you running? I'm not absolutely certain about this but, if even one of your deisel engines is damaged, I think you're kaput. __________________ "The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." -Miyamoto Musashi ------------------------------------------------------- "What is truth?" -Pontius Pilate

11-29-10, 06:28 PM	#2
Jan Kyster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,151 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	- but your rudder works, right? Perhaps you could join forces with skipper Jack Cutter if he's still in the vicinity.... Stuck or stranded! I'm shocked! For photos lock on target with Obs-scope and use button on the command bar.

11-30-10, 12:40 AM	#3
BadSeed Watch Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: South Pacific Posts: 25 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I headed out after a refit and ran into a convoy so I saved and went all out. Wiped out the lot of 'em and was lucky to be left only stranded but with heavy casualties. Alas, I called and called but no one came

11-30-10, 11:55 AM	#7
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Are you making any speed at all. Also, if you save and reload the damage screen will clear, but damage remains. SH4 is built off SH3 which uses two engines, even though it shows having four, we really have two. The damage zones are poorly done in stock, you can often lose engines, rudders, planes and just get stuck, most megamods correct these issues. If damage isn't clearing, probably destroyed. Some go back and edit saved files to repair. Take it like a man....start a new career.

11-30-10, 02:18 PM	#9
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Game over.....You may want to try TMO with Training Wheels as a mod to start with if the harder supermods scare ya..