North and South Korea are at it again

[Castout]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Castout is probably right, although they might perhaps rush the Shi Lang into service, I mean she must be nearly in a ready state by now.

They already called for restraint implying that North Korea may make another provocation and make the presence of USS George Washington the pretense. North Korea probably told the Chinese that they would act their words regarding another military exercises near the border.

What Washington needs to be aware is that a show of force is useless unless they are ready for war when war is necessary, at the very least a limited one.

[Molon Labe]

Duds and NK tactics:
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/artic...sp?aid=2928905

The South Korean military is examining around twenty North Korean shells that failed to explode and were found lodged in concrete walls and in tree branches. Eighty of the 170 shells fired managed to land on the island. Roughly 90 rounds fell into the sea.
The number of duds is expected to increase, as troops are still combing the island for shells. South Korean authorities believe the duds and the shells that failed to reach the island were the result of North Korea’s aged equipment or flawed gunpowder and detonators.
Military officials believe North Korea achieved such extensive damage on the island despite the duds and the misses because it meticulously planned the attack. It used “time-on-target” (TOT) coordination, a military tactic in which all the munitions arrive at the same time at a designated target for maximum destruction.
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A firing drill using the TOT method was carried out by North Korea in January near the Northern Limit Line, with around 100 rounds fired, which South Korean authorities think was a dress rehearsal for Tuesday’s attack.
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They didn’t fire randomly but specifically targeted the military base on the island, including oil storage units, and 20,000 liters of oil were released, some catching on fire. They also targeted the post office, a supermarket and municipal buildings. Those structure were formerly military buildings, so the South Korean military suspects North Korea was planning from an old map.

[mapuc]

A question to the americans

Why did you change your support? Yesterday you supported South Korea and today you are supporting North Korea that's a quick change indeed.

Markus

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by mapuc

A question to the americans

Why did you change your support? Yesterday you supported South Korea and today you are supporting North Korea that's a quick change indeed.

Markus

What? The only criticism I have of the South right now is they didn't drop some GBUs on the Nork arty bunkers.

I doubt you will find many Americans who support dropping FAEs on civvies.

[CCIP]

Is that an ironic stab at Sarah Palin masquerading as a question?

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by mapuc

A question to the americans

Why did you change your support? Yesterday you supported South Korea and today you are supporting North Korea that's a quick change indeed.

Markus

It is because North Korea is geographically closer to Alaska than the South!









@TLAM: He is probably referring to what your greatest thinker said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11840828



edit: damn, CCIP beat me to seconds!

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by CCIP

Is that an ironic stab at Sarah Palin masquerading as a question?

Originally Posted by Penguin

@TLAM: He is probably referring to what your greatest thinker said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11840828

I find it best to ignore Sara Palin...

[Molon Labe]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

What? The only criticism I have of the South right now is they didn't drop some GBUs on the Nork arty bunkers.

I doubt you will find many Americans who support dropping FAEs on civvies.

Their ROE was to respond in the same manner as the nature of the attack. So, artillery was met with artillery.

Seems stupid, but it makes sense when you consider that the policy is about preventing escalation rather than deterring/forcibly stopping attacks. And those ROE look like they're done for now.


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http://english.chosun.com/site/data/...112600290.html

A military source on Thursday said analysis of about 20 unexploded shells collected from the island showed that many of them are not ordinary 76.2-mm coastal artillery shells but 122-mm MLRS shells.
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Analysis of reconnaissance aircraft photographs revealed that the North deployed a 122-mm MLRS battalion of its Fourth Army Corps at Kaemori, South Hwanghae Province on the day of the attack. One battalion has 18 MLRS vehicles.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

I find it best to ignore Sara Palin...

I am trying but the media won't let me.

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by Molon Labe

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/...112600290.html

Yeah, this certainly matches with the picture TLAM posted earlier. This is certainly interesting - just goes to show that this was indeed premediated. Although given how the whole thing happened, I never did believe that it was merely a reaction to something happening in the South's exercise in nearby waters - nope, they knew they wanted to make a show, probably as soon as they learned that an exercise would be happening at all...

[ReFaN]

i got a small tingling feeling, all **** is going to break loose soon, and it wont be pretty.

[Freiwillige]

Really I'm not really a Palin supporter but if the best thing you have against her is confusing north and south (In word only) as she has clearly stated before that north Korea is the enemy so she grasps that concept just fine. Then you have not much. In fact many presidents have slipped up in a press conferance or a speech.

It was a freudian slip.

As for the Korean issue I read that the real reason the South doesn't want to push the north is fear of the unstable regime collapsing and China walking in again and taking over. North Korea fails to exist and South Korea becomes China's neighbor. Is this a realistic view?

[Reece]

Originally Posted by ReFaN

i got a small tingling feeling, all **** is going to break loose soon, and it wont be pretty.

Yes! when the war games start that could open the proverbial "can of worms"!

I'm coming to get you!!

[CCIP]

I like how North Korea still has the nerve to send indignant warnings about exercises, while it's being widely reported that they themselves are possibly conducting exercises near the same area where the incident took place.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Freiwillige

Really I'm not really a Palin supporter but if the best thing you have against her is confusing north and south (In word only) as she has clearly stated before that north Korea is the enemy so she grasps that concept just fine. Then you have not much. In fact many presidents have slipped up in a press conferance or a speech.

I agree. Bush's "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." springs to mind.