North and South Korea are at it again

[Oberon]

Castout is probably right, although they might perhaps rush the Shi Lang into service, I mean she must be nearly in a ready state by now.

[Armistead]

China owns a large portion of our debt, enough that if we didn't pay them back could easily destroy their upcoming economy...

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Armistead

China owns a large portion of our debt, enough that if we didn't pay them back could easily destroy their upcoming economy...

Large portion? Nah. About 20%.* And yes if we defaulted on any of our bills (regardless of who owned them) it could have adverse affects on the borrowing country.

Good thing the US has never defaulted on any of their bills... which is why they are such a good investment for countries.

* http://www.ustreas.gov/tic/mfh.txt

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Castout is probably right, although they might perhaps rush the Shi Lang into service, I mean she must be nearly in a ready state by now.

Maybe not, who knows, China's new SSBNs have been sitting in port for over a 3 years and they looked finished when we 1st spotted them.

2007:

Today:

[CCIP]

To dig up a post from a couple of pages back...

Originally Posted by Armistead

If we take on NK, the tactics will be based on the best way to make money, meaning a slower war and more nation building. Wonder what would happen if Palin were Pres.

And here we finally have the answer:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11840828

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Maybe not, who knows, China's new SSBNs have been sitting in port for over a 3 years and they looked finished when we 1st spotted them.

2007:

Today:

They're probably scared that they'll do like the other Xia

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Oberon

They're probably scared that they'll do like the other Xia

Either that or all the Han class crewmen now in the cancer ward damped the spirits of the crew slated for these new boats and they went back to the family farm...

[Molon Labe]

They've sacked their defense minister over this because the response was too weak. Which doesn't make any sense, because at least from my perspective the Korean people have wanted weak responses to the Norks for some time now. The ROE in place were designed to respond proportionally without escalating, consistent with their national strategy of waiting for the North to collapse under its own incompetence.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Molon Labe

They've sacked their defense minister over this because the response was too weak. Which doesn't make any sense, because at least from my perspective the Korean people have wanted weak responses to the Norks for some time now. The ROE in place were designed to respond proportionally without escalating, consistent with their national strategy of waiting for the North to collapse under its own incompetence.

They do and don't, I think the ROK public is split between those who remember the Korean war and don't want another one, and those who don't and have lived with DPRK aggression and ROK restraint for all their lives. The former are those who urge the restraint and want to wait for the DPRK to collapse in on itself, whereas the latter are more aggressive and want revenge for the ROK lives lost to DPRK action over the years. The leader of the ROK has to tread a delicate line between the two if he wants to stay in power, and as the 1950s retreat further into history, the former people die off and the latter grow in number.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Either that or all the Han class crewmen now in the cancer ward damped the spirits of the crew slated for these new boats and they went back to the family farm...

That would put a dampener on the whole affair...however, it's a sign of the new PRC if they can actually go back to the farms and not find their family dead when they get there...

[ReFaN]

and here comes america!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...112407076.html

[Molon Labe]

Originally Posted by Oberon

They do and don't, I think the ROK public is split between those who remember the Korean war and don't want another one, and those who don't and have lived with DPRK aggression and ROK restraint for all their lives.

I've heard this theory before, and it seems to be playing out. The young generation just doesn't seem to appreciate the threat.

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More news:

DPRK used thermobaric or FAE rounds on Yeonpeyong.

3 or the 6 K9 batteries on Yonpeyong were disabled due to battle damage or software glitches and did not return fire that day.

"The only AN/TPQ-36 artillery location radar didn’t work properly so the South failed to neutralize North Korean artillery, a JCS source admitted."

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news...205_76976.html

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Oberon

That would put a dampener on the whole affair...however, it's a sign of the new PRC if they can actually go back to the farms and not find their family dead when they get there...

This isn't the 1980's, I'm fairly certain sub service in the PLAN is on a volunteer basis. Point is I'm sure if they don't want to serve on subs they can transfer to some other post and get their food allotment cut ($4.70 for sub guys) then muster out.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Molon Labe

"The only AN/TPQ-36 artillery location radar didn’t work properly so the South failed to neutralize North Korean artillery, a JCS source admitted."

Wonder if it got jammed. China offers LGB jammers, we found some in Baghdad.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by ReFaN

and here comes america!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...112407076.html

I doubt this will phase China into doing anything 'sensible' toward NK....only a retaliatory strike will make them realise stability in the region is a real possibility.