First photo of Chinese F-22 - Page 3

krashkart · 11-20-10, 01:42 PM

Those lines along the wing roots are unmistakable. Did our government fork over the plans for the Nighthawk or did Beijing snoop it out from under us?

MH · 11-20-10, 01:46 PM

They just copied the Matchbox model.

Raptor1 · 11-20-10, 01:48 PM

I don't think it would be that hard for them to take the basic design and figure out how best to build such a thing even without the blueprints, unless they copied the electronics as well, which I doubt.

Schroeder · 11-20-10, 01:52 PM

Forget what I said, I only saw the black lines of the rear parts of the wings and tail.

TLAM Strike · 11-20-10, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by krashkart

Those lines along the wing roots are unmistakable. Did our government fork over the plans for the Nighthawk or did Beijing snoop it out from under us?

From Serbia with love...

... sooner or latter the shoot down of #806 was going to bite us in the ass...

Oberon · 11-20-10, 03:03 PM

Already bit you, I'd say Comrade PAK-FA benefitted a fair bit from #806, after all, that's where most of the materials went.
Then of course, you have the Russians playing the same game:

TLAM Strike · 11-20-10, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Already bit you, I'd say Comrade PAK-FA benefitted a fair bit from #806, after all, that's where most of the materials went.

The Russians were working on Stealth Jets before the shoot down they started work on this bad boy in 1986...

...But then Clint Eastwood stole it... oh wait that was that other Soviet stealth plane...

XabbaRus · 11-20-10, 05:51 PM

Twas actually the Russians who developed the equations for stealth.

Just the US went and developed it and the materials.

The theory has been out there for ages, the chinese have enough smart people to look at the many pictures of the F-22 to work it out.

It all comes down to materials and electronics of which I'd say the Russians and the Chinese aren't that far behind. You can mump and moan all you want about the F-117 shootdown but I wouldn't be surprised if they were already working on it.

FIREWALL · 11-20-10, 06:06 PM

20 to 30 yrs ? If most of you here aren't lieing about your age, you'll be close to being in a nurseing home crapping in your pants.

Until some idiot leaders here, destroy our nuclear weapons and their delivery systems, China or anyone else for that matter isn't a problem.

TLAM Strike · 11-20-10, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Until some idiot leaders here, destroy our nuclear weapons and their delivery systems, China or anyone else for that matter isn't a problem.

Unless some geeks sitting at a computer develop a countermeasure... or a better bomb...

... pray they are our geeks...

the_tyrant · 11-21-10, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Unless some geeks sitting at a computer develop a countermeasure... or a better bomb...

... pray they are our geeks...

thats enough war-games for you
go watch something else

Oberon · 11-21-10, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by the_tyrant

thats enough war-games for you
go watch something else

How about a nice game of chess?

TLAM Strike · 11-21-10, 02:17 PM

Photographed at the latest Chinese air show...

This one is from a while ago and is probably in service by now...

Oberon · 11-21-10, 02:28 PM

Now they're just being silly...

Ah well, you make a good design you've got to expect people to ape it, after all, you don't put millions of dollars into R&D to find the most efficient airflow shape, you wait for the other rich guy to do it and then google it.

Or there's the Tu-4 approach...

TLAM Strike · 11-21-10, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Or there's the Tu-4 approach...

We have a winner....

Six Tomahawks went down in Pakistan in 1998 on their way to AQ targets in Afghanistan. Look what then showed up a few years latter...

Pakistani Babur LACM:

Chinese DH-10 LACM

Chinese C-602 ASM/LACM

How many UAVs have we lost over Pakistan? I bet Pakistan got a nice discount on their new Chendgu JF-17 jets for handing over the wreckage.

11-20-10, 01:48 PM	#33
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	I don't think it would be that hard for them to take the basic design and figure out how best to build such a thing even without the blueprints, unless they copied the electronics as well, which I doubt. __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

11-20-10, 01:52 PM	#34
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Forget what I said, I only saw the black lines of the rear parts of the wings and tail. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

11-20-10, 05:51 PM	#38
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Twas actually the Russians who developed the equations for stealth. Just the US went and developed it and the materials. The theory has been out there for ages, the chinese have enough smart people to look at the many pictures of the F-22 to work it out. It all comes down to materials and electronics of which I'd say the Russians and the Chinese aren't that far behind. You can mump and moan all you want about the F-117 shootdown but I wouldn't be surprised if they were already working on it. __________________

11-20-10, 06:06 PM	#39
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	20 to 30 yrs ? If most of you here aren't lieing about your age, you'll be close to being in a nurseing home crapping in your pants. Until some idiot leaders here, destroy our nuclear weapons and their delivery systems, China or anyone else for that matter isn't a problem. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

11-21-10, 02:17 PM	#43
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	Photographed at the latest Chinese air show... This one is from a while ago and is probably in service by now... __________________

11-20-10, 01:42 PM	#31
krashkart Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,292 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	Those lines along the wing roots are unmistakable. Did our government fork over the plans for the Nighthawk or did Beijing snoop it out from under us?

11-20-10, 01:46 PM	#32
MH Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,184 Downloads: 248 Uploads: 0	They just copied the Matchbox model.

11-20-10, 03:03 PM	#36
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Already bit you, I'd say Comrade PAK-FA benefitted a fair bit from #806, after all, that's where most of the materials went. Then of course, you have the Russians playing the same game:

11-21-10, 02:28 PM	#44
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Now they're just being silly... Ah well, you make a good design you've got to expect people to ape it, after all, you don't put millions of dollars into R&D to find the most efficient airflow shape, you wait for the other rich guy to do it and then google it. Or there's the Tu-4 approach...