Dont touch my junk

tater · 11-16-10, 01:56 PM

The TSA is pretty absurd. The people they hire look like they'd be a larger threat than many passengers. Half my friends (more?) have Q clearances (heck, got interviewed in the house by an investigator for a friend getting cleared last week). They're gonna get the pat-down from someone in a much tighter financial situation that might be "bought" to look the other way? Guys that deal with designing our defenses and nukes, no less. LOL.

The pilots? Erm, if they want to harm passengers, they are in the cockpit already, they can do like that Egyptian pilot did and crash the plane.

I'm frankly unsure what is to be done. I'd like to see serious studies on the x-ray machines before my kids get scanned repeatedly, for example. What will a pat-down buy some slack-jawed TSA employee find? How much training do they have? As much as a cop doing a search? I think not.

mookiemookie · 11-16-10, 02:00 PM

The TSA are incompetent fools. They've never thwarted any plot. They've never stopped any terrorist.

Scary:

Quote:

Airport security in America is a sham—“security theater” designed to make travelers feel better and catch stupid terrorists. Smart ones can get through security with fake boarding passes and all manner of prohibited items—as our correspondent did with ease.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...arried/7057/1/

My favorite part is where the Hezbollah flag and "Osama bin Laden - Hero of Islam" tshirt raised no suspicions.

AVGWarhawk · 11-16-10, 02:03 PM

Besides the TSA what does anyone suggest?

tater · 11-16-10, 02:06 PM

Note that the airline STILL cannot guarantee that your bags will not have items stolen out of them when checked.

If the BAGS cannot be secure, then why can't terrorists simply sneak bombs in THERE?

Also, and I'm honestly surprised this has not happened, what about the security lines themselves as a target?

Take our ABQ airport. Most all the planes are 737s and smaller. The security line, OTOH, snakes several planes full of passengers through one, large room. By definition, the people in the line have no yet been searched. If a suicide attacker detonated in the middle of the line, he'd get his dearest wish, the murder of countless innocents (for which Allah gives him a nice prize—yeah Islam!). Also, air travel would be just as screwed with all the economic issues that causes.

August · 11-16-10, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tater

If the BAGS cannot be secure, then why can't terrorists simply sneak bombs in THERE?

They did just that Lockerbie Pan Am bombing.

11-16-10, 03:18 PM

moan while they frisk you.
My favorite.

Sailor Steve · 11-16-10, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Third Man

moan while they frisk you.
My favorite.

I'm not sure I could resist the temptation to put something odorless but squishy down my pants.

the_tyrant · 11-16-10, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I'm not sure I could resist the temptation to put something odorless but squishy down my pants.

Make that odorless and hard

nikimcbee · 11-16-10, 06:31 PM

I wonder what would happen if you wore a cup?

TLAM Strike · 11-16-10, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tater

If the BAGS cannot be secure, then why can't terrorists simply sneak bombs in THERE?

Honestly I'm surprised they don't just stop and the end of the runway just outside the fence with a van and two guys with automatic weapons then just shoot at the jets as they take off.

11-16-10, 03:29 PM

Truthfully. Profiling and questioning would be more effective, both as a deterent and a point defense than this BS. Frankfurt - Main does it.

Jimbuna · 11-16-10, 03:34 PM

The Israelis are probably the best in the world with those techniques....it has worked pretty well for them.

11-16-10, 03:37 PM

I'd rather be profiled and questioned than groped.

the_tyrant · 11-16-10, 03:40 PM

this is obviously there to make themselves seem competent
and to make (stupid) people feel secure

nikimcbee · 11-16-10, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

The Israelis are probably the best in the world with those techniques....it has worked pretty well for them.

Too Jewish, need something more secular.

11-16-10, 02:03 PM	#3
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,277 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Besides the TSA what does anyone suggest? __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

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nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I wonder what would happen if you wore a cup? __________________

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,678 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The Israelis are probably the best in the world with those techniques....it has worked pretty well for them. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

11-16-10, 01:56 PM	#1
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	The TSA is pretty absurd. The people they hire look like they'd be a larger threat than many passengers. Half my friends (more?) have Q clearances (heck, got interviewed in the house by an investigator for a friend getting cleared last week). They're gonna get the pat-down from someone in a much tighter financial situation that might be "bought" to look the other way? Guys that deal with designing our defenses and nukes, no less. LOL. The pilots? Erm, if they want to harm passengers, they are in the cockpit already, they can do like that Egyptian pilot did and crash the plane. I'm frankly unsure what is to be done. I'd like to see serious studies on the x-ray machines before my kids get scanned repeatedly, for example. What will a pat-down buy some slack-jawed TSA employee find? How much training do they have? As much as a cop doing a search? I think not.

11-16-10, 02:06 PM	#4
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Note that the airline STILL cannot guarantee that your bags will not have items stolen out of them when checked. If the BAGS cannot be secure, then why can't terrorists simply sneak bombs in THERE? Also, and I'm honestly surprised this has not happened, what about the security lines themselves as a target? Take our ABQ airport. Most all the planes are 737s and smaller. The security line, OTOH, snakes several planes full of passengers through one, large room. By definition, the people in the line have no yet been searched. If a suicide attacker detonated in the middle of the line, he'd get his dearest wish, the murder of countless innocents (for which Allah gives him a nice prize—yeah Islam!). Also, air travel would be just as screwed with all the economic issues that causes.

11-16-10, 03:18 PM	#6
The Third Man Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	moan while they frisk you. My favorite.

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The Third Man Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Truthfully. Profiling and questioning would be more effective, both as a deterent and a point defense than this BS. Frankfurt - Main does it.

11-16-10, 03:37 PM	#13
The Third Man Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I'd rather be profiled and questioned than groped.

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the_tyrant Admiral Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 2,272 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	this is obviously there to make themselves seem competent and to make (stupid) people feel secure