German police arrest 22 in neo-Nazi internet raid

@Tribsman i have real problem to understand what you stand for besides pissing off certain if not all peaple.

Thats simple, Tater made a sweeping generalisation which is quite ludicrous due to it being highly innacurate, that needed addressing which people have done. You joined with assertions along the same lines that were counterfactual and which you have now watered down to a level which shows they were not great claims to make in the first place and even in one case gone full circle and reversed your claims entirely.
So the lesson is think before you make claims as to if they actually make sense or not.
If showing that your claim was innacurate and didn't make sense pissed you off then that is your problem.

[MH]

Tribsman i did not get pissed off on you i actully like you for my own reasons.
I never claimed what tater did
Im just agains smoothing history too much.
Look at the statistic Sky brought.
I actully find it backs my claims but it depends at which side of coin you look.
Its good at least you agree on somthing with Skybird lol.

Its good at least you agree on somthing with Skybird lol.

I agree with sky on many different issues in different ways, the one thing I really disagree with him on is where his rational criticism of Islam has morphed completely into irrational obsessive hatred which is demonstrated by the frequency with which he simply lies again and again and continues despite being shown to be obviously lying, links to the craziest racist extremist nuts out there to agree with them and funnily enough considering this present topic spouts stuff that can be taken word for word from My Struggle and later 1930s-40 Nazi germany anti jewish tripe with the only difference being that the religion in question has changed.

Well lets clean the air

Your pity was not asked for, nor did I try to excuse "Mitläufer" and free them of their share of guilt - I have accused silent Mitläufer of their share of guilt myself often enough, in context both with the Nazigerman and the Muhammeddan communities. But my grandfathers both were neither Nazis, nor did they feel explicitly nationalistic - not back then, and not in the decades later. Neither had them voted for the Nazis to come to power, nor did they bring or wish to bring more nationalism to Germany than Western nations in general ticked nationalistic back in that era. And still they turned out to be victims of circumstances that - different to your claim - they, like many others, had not opted for to bring to themselves or to Germany.

So your grandfathers had a hard time and according to your words they did not vote for nationalistic party in both elections (the first one ended as a draw). Do you remember the budge "ja" and what Hitlers minions did to other who didn`t have one? In best case they were beaten..badly.
You also claimed that your grandfathers fought the war, so they did vote at the end? I need a further explanation here.

I just want to correct this stupid polarising and stereotyping of "all Germans were Nazis". That is an extremely simplifying

Here is my answer.
I don`t think that all Germans are nazis, i think that Germans were blinded and fooled by thieves, liars and paranoids.

Originally Posted by DarkFish

Don't mind his question sky. Read this post instead: http://subsim.com/radioroom/showpost...&postcount=123

Don`t bother with this one. Desperation is only key for someone who failed to defend his position. How pathetic and sad

[Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Dimitrius07

Don`t bother with this one. Desperation is only key for someone who failed to defend his position. How pathetic and sad

Ahahahahahhahahahahahahhahgahahahhahahah

You have the best ones!

I just looked up the new posts, you realise how many threads/posts you have on this political stuff. ITS STUPID DAMNIT, and some people are sick of it, I use to like subsim, and frequent the GT, but nowdays its political slime, and the people who post it!

I think i agree with Task Force one this one. Take stupidity, ignorance and desperation and put all this together. Combine all that with pure selfishness, dummy accounts (to make it look like he is always right) and you will get

with nothing interesting to talk about.

Originally Posted by Rhodes

Ahahahahahhahahahahahahhahgahahahhahahah

You have the best ones!

I am just warming up

[DarkFish]

Originally Posted by Rhodes

Ahahahahahhahahahahahahhahgahahahhahahah

You have the best ones!

He's a funny guy, isn't he

Bwahahahahahaaaaa

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by tater

I understood it fine. That's why I said the US Confederates might have thought they were fighting for a good reason, but they were in fact wrong, they were fighting for a crappy reason.

Being deluded isn't an excuse, otherwise. Confederates fought to preserve the right to own other human beings, Germans in WW2 fought to preserve the right to murder other human beings. Both are true regardless of what they might have "thought" they were fighting for.

What about slavery in the Union states?
I personally see that the main issue was the role of central goverment in the USA.

[Dowly]

Dimi is a troll, entertaining one, but still just a troll.

Originally Posted by Happy Times

What about slavery in the Union states?
I personally see that the main issue was the role of central goverment in the USA.

And what about people who put they life on the line and fought against slavery in the "Union states"? In some point you start to realize that when you give human rights to SOME animals, you automatically loosing yours in the process.

Originally Posted by Dowly

Dimi is a troll, entertaining one, but still just a troll.

Emty words

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by Dimitrius07

And what about people who put they life on the line and fought against slavery in the "Union states"? In some point you start to realize that when you give human rights to SOME animals, you automatically loosing yours in the process.

What?

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Dimitrius07

Emty words

Well it got your attention.

As for the actual topic, you might want to read how germany worked at the time, before making idiotic and/or uneducated posts. It wasnt black and white back then.

This for you too, Tater.