The politics thread

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I think you should start a Canadian political thread, now that would be different.

That would be a lot of talk about maple syrup brands.

Just kidding; don't hurt me.

[Ducimus]

A politics thread won't work because it doesn't suit the ego's involved. The usual suspects feel their opinion every issue is the right opinion, the issue itself is so important it deserves its own thread, and most importantly, they demand to be heard. That is the thing really, they want to be heard. If the post will get buried, they won't be heard, therego, they won't abide by a designated place to vent their anger.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

That would be a lot of talk about maple syrup brands.

Just kidding; don't hurt me.

I knew I could find a real Canadian political discussion, not releated to maple syrup!



I'll just throw this in:

[joea]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I knew I could find a real Canadian political discussion, not releated to maple syrup!



I'll just throw this in:

Ah good old Bob and Doug, as for the second clip:

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[Oberon]

I tried this Magerius...it didn't work

Hope you have more success though

[Betonov]

We'll there's still slovenian politics. a ongoing battle beetwen the red and white guard, a subject most smart slovenians are sick of it but both sides still have enough sheep to keep it going. I don tknow about republicans vs democrats, but here its like:

coalition: lets have an idiotic plan of saving the economy which in long run will ruin it
oposition: NO, we have a better plan and will deny you ever implementing your plan, since your plan is not our plan and our plan will tank the economy faster
C: lets reward a company that survived the crisis and is making massive profit
O: NO, lets sell the company to foreigners
C: lets save that boy that is drowing in the lake
O: NO, we will not save the boy because you are left/right and we are not and we will prevent you from saving the boy

ITs not politics, it's a tragic circus filled with drunken incompetent clowns abusing that little slovenian tradition of ''distrust thy neghbour'' by creating a de facto state of civil war during every election, wasting everybody's time and having nothing done. Sometimes the oposition actually supports an idiotic plan or law, because they know it will be so stupid that the coalition might actually loose the election because of it, regardless what the consicuencess will be. Sometimes an actuall civil war would be better, people would have something to do and we could hang every SoB without the law being brought down on us

[the_tyrant]

You know, after all this time here, I have never seen a Muslim member of subsim

[tater]

Originally Posted by the_tyrant

You know, after all this time here, I have never seen a Muslim member of subsim

Maybe when someone does a Kaiten sim we'll get a huge influx.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I tried this Magerius...it didn't work

Hope you have more success though

Get used to it. I'm guessing most of the folks talking politics here wont stop for at least another week. As i understand the usual cycle is to work up into a rabid state. Start watching any indicator that their favorite team is wining, and after the election they'll do one of two things. Whine, or brag for about a week. After that, most will probably, finally, STFU. A couple never will.

Frankly, i never like to discuss politics at all. Only reason i did in any capacity, is because that's all their is around here now. One politico thread after another. I'm tired of it. Apparently, im one of the few people who grew up with some sage advice.....

Never talk about politics or religion. (least of all with friends IMO) My father told me that at an early age. I didn't quite understand it until i got older. Politics and religion are things that make up the core of a person. Discussing that stuff, is prodding the very thing that makes a person tick, and its easy to get sucked into a vicious "discussion". The end result is, they'll either love you, or hate you with a fervant passion.. It's best to just respect a persons beliefs, and leave it be. Unfortuantley, not everyone is capable of doing that.

[tater]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Frankly, i never like to discuss politics at all. Only reason i did in any capacity, is because that's all their is around here now. One politico thread after another. I'm tired of it. Apparently, im one of the few people who grew up with some sage advice.....

Never talk about politics or religion. (least of all with friends IMO) My father told me that at an early age. I didn't quite understand it until i got older. Politics and religion are things that make up the core of a person. Discussing that stuff, is prodding the very thing that makes a person tick, and its easy to get sucked into a vicious "discussion". The end result is, they'll either love you, or hate you with a fervant passion.. It's best to just respect a persons beliefs, and leave it be. Unfortuantley, not everyone is capable of doing that.

I do this in personal relationships pretty much 100%. Try as hard as possible to avoid the subject, if unavoidable, try hard to not get nailed down.

Forums... totally different, least to me. Both politics and religion are really interesting topics to debate, but as you said, you cannot really engage in debate in person if you follow that sage advice. So a forum is one of the few places you CAN get into those arguments.

If that makes any sense.

FWIW, I think even the most strident posters on opposite sides here would probably be fast friends over a few beers.

[August]

Originally Posted by tater

FWIW, I think even the most strident posters on opposite sides here would probably be fast friends over a few beers.

Some could but others are way too touchy to ever let anyone get to that point.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by tater

I do this in personal relationships pretty much 100%. Try as hard as possible to avoid the subject, if unavoidable, try hard to not get nailed down.

It's a tap dance. Espeically around my Fiancee's father. He's a kindly old man of 82, and a devote Mormon. You go to his house, its ALL he talks about. I just nod my head, give generalized non answers, mixed with a little circle talk. I'm very careful to never reveal any personal beliefs. That opens the door to a religous prodding, which i've done well to avoid thus far.

Forums... totally different, least to me.

Yeah, I find it more vicious then in real life.

Both politics and religion are really interesting topics to debate,

I'd say they are angry topics because they are core beleifs. People seem to have a need to evangalize their beleifs, and attack those who do not share theirs. It, IMO, boils down to ramrodding crap down anothers throat. A pet peeve of mine.

but as you said, you cannot really engage in debate in person if you follow that sage advice

.

Political rally's? My mom's an avid tea partier, and much to my surprise, attends community rallies. I can't say i share her political devtoion, but she's doing a helluva lot more then spouting her opinion on a message board.

So a forum is one of the few places you CAN get into those arguments.

Which, really, at the end of the day, accomplishes nothing, does it? If your THAT fired, go to a rally. That accomplish's far more IMO.

FWIW, I think even the most strident posters on opposite sides here would probably be fast friends over a few beers.

After the crap ive seen or engaged in over the years......I doubt that. Some people here can hold a grudge for a very long time, which includes me.