Liberal Activist Attacked by Zealous Conservative

[SteamWake]

"Get the police here, get the cops" sounds pretty reasonable to me.

The dork that stepped on her head was quickly waved off. There is no excuse for that and he did not help things. But it was 5 seconds of video that we see over and over and over. Its being portrayed as if the entire crowd went all postal and stomped the living crap out of this woman which is simply not true. But it paints a picture they wish to portray of 'tea party wackos'.

What we dont see nor is described is the following.

The woman was wearing a 'costume', she had identifying garb denoting her as a 'moveon.org' associate, she was forcing her way through the crowd with some sort of 'package' towards the candidate. Slightly suspicious to say the least.

The only thing put into perspective here is that 1.) Theres idiots in every crowd and 2.)The liberal progressives want very badly to portray the tea party as 'nut jobs'.

[Takeda Shingen]

I agree completely with Armike. The woman was no doubt a loon, but physical violence has no place in these proceedings. As to the media coverage, people shout at each other all the time. This would not have been news if not for the stomping of this woman. It is no different than people rubbernecking when driving by an accident; an unfortunate effect of our society of voyeurism.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

2.)The liberal progressives want very badly to portray the tea party as 'nut jobs'.

Not hard to do when Teabaggers tackle and stomp on the heads of those with different political opinions.

In an ideal world no one would suddenly and inexplicably charge a candidate for national office and no one would have to step on the charger's head. But this isn't an ideal world now is it?

[frau kaleun]

And now the stomper has gone on record with the local TV news (albeit with his face off camera per his own request) to say that he deserves an apology... from the person he stomped on.

"I don't think it's that big of a deal," Profitt said. "I would like for her to apologize to me to be honest with you."

WTF?

Oh, waaaah, I couldn't bend over to restrain her because I have back issues.

Then GTFO and let someone who is physically capable deal with a potential threat* if and when it develops.



*Please note that appearing at a public event with views other than your own, or representing those whose views differ from your own, does not constitute a "threat" to which physical assault is a legitimate response. Just in case there's any confusion. Nimrod.

[tater]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Not hard to do when Teabaggers tackle and stomp on the heads of those with different political opinions.

"Teabaggers" and "stomp."

I try pretty hard in my posts not to hurl epithets. Generalization is also often not a good idea. There is exactly zero pattern of violence here. There are assaults in virtually every large gathering of people. Last time there was a concert someplace, do you think the police or security had any incidents? Sure, they probably had a bunch.

How many "incidents" per 1000 people is normal/typical in any gathering?

How many in political rallies?

Do Tea Party rallies have more than average, or fewer than the average number of incidents?

Basing a POV on anecdote is pretty normal in the US, I'll admit. It's not terribly rigorous, however.

Bad incident, press charges. When you can demonstrate a statistically significant increase in such incidents as a function of politics, by all means, post away.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by tater

"Teabaggers" and "stomp."

I try pretty hard in my posts not to hurl epithets. Generalization is also often not a good idea. There is exactly zero pattern of violence here. There are assaults in virtually every large gathering of people. Last time there was a concert someplace, do you think the police or security had any incidents? Sure, they probably had a bunch.

How many "incidents" per 1000 people is normal/typical in any gathering?

How many in political rallies?

Do Tea Party rallies have more than average, or fewer than the average number of incidents?

Basing a POV on anecdote is pretty normal in the US, I'll admit. It's not terribly rigorous, however.

Bad incident, press charges. When you can demonstrate a statistically significant increase in such incidents as a function of politics, by all means, post away.

When people defend this kind of behavior by saying she had it coming because she worked for moveon or that it's all a big dadgum librul conspiracy, that's what seals the deal on looking crazy.

[tater]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

When people defend this kind of behavior by saying she had it coming because she worked for moveon or that it's all a big dadgum librul conspiracy, that's what seals the deal on looking crazy.

Ever read huffpo or kos?

They routinely wish death on conservatives in comments. They have taken to turning off comments on news stories about a congress critter with cancer if he's an R, for example, cause of all the crazy death-wishing, and "I hope he suffers" nonsense.

Or the fact that BO's campaign website was filled with bloggers (they offered blogging space) that advocated for terrorism, etc (only pulled when pointed out by other blogs). (no, I'm not saying BO endorsed this, just that given the free opportunity, some pro-Obama nuts posted their insanity there)

There are crazies in every group.

She didn't "have it coming," no one does. That said, she was certainly engaging in a possibly dangerous activity. She could certainly expect she might be hassled contrary to her rights, just as the guy with the gun might have been hassled (heck, SHOT) by the cops overreacting—in spite of any legal rights he had.

What would a scab with an anti-union message expect showing up to a union rally? Hugs?

Would his abuse be legal? No. Should he have thought it to be likely before he headed there? Hell, yeah.

Not excusing it, they should be charged, but it doesn't surprise me.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

" it paints a picture they wish to portray of 'tea party wackos'.

I got news for you. They don't have to try and portray anything. The Tea partiers are doing a good job of it all on their own between this and open carry demonstrations. I don't care who you are, you don't go carrying around weapons to make a point in politics. To this layman, gives the overall picture of a bunch of fringe whack jobs id rather not have anything to do with.

I guess just saying we have our boots on some ones neck, ala Ken Salazar v. BP, is more PC then actually doing it. If the gal, who was in disguise, had done the same thing to Barry she'd have had more trouble. But safety for the one is more important than anyone else.

[Freiwillige]

Just speculation here but whose to say that the guys that ripped her to the ground and stepped on her head (Ever so lighty might I point out, wasn't exactly a skinhead boot party) weren't in on the whole thing? Move on.org and their ilk have a history of fraudulent schemes.

Not saying that is the case and it probably isn't but just presenting another option as in this day and age anything is possible.

Also I would like to say that I feel sorry for people such as this girl who live in the fantasy land of leftist division who see corporate republican conspiracy every where. The youth are brainwashed in higher education and come out whacko's.

Its funny because Communist's always use that same class\racial warfare struggle to gain power. Its an old playbook yet it almost never fails.

When are we going to come together as American's and try to solve these problems on a whole without the division?

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by Freiwillige

Its funny because Communist's always use that same class\racial warfare struggle to gain power. Its an old playbook yet it almost never fails.

Could that possibly because there's, you know, a lot of injustice and inequality in societies like even the US? But sure, let's call it a communist conspiracy instead of addressing it as part of the political process...

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by CCIP

Could that possibly because there's, you know, a lot of injustice and inequality in societies like even the US? But sure, let's call it a communist conspiracy instead of addressing it as part of the political process...

I am so sick of hearing about injustice and inequality, it's a major selling point of the Left, they exploit the less fortunate and un or undereducated, disgusting.Guess what, everyone is not equal when it comes to $, just how it is.The individual's job is to do their best to make it, not whine or expect others to pick up their slack.

[Bubblehead1980]

On the whole stomping incident...

watch the video again, she was trying to shove her sign into Rand Paul's vehicle at the begining unless that was edited it out, I just saw it earlier on tv.Although this goober was not security he felt his candidate was in danger, so along with others they took her down, which was absolutely justified(women can do harm to candidates also, remember the wacko who tried to shoot Gerald Ford?) Now this idiot shouldnt have put his foot on her but he didnt "stomp" her, that is a gross overstatement.Looked more like he was watching out while using his foot to hold her down, should not have done it but lets not go overboard as the Left wing media is trying to do.Look up this moonbat's interview with Keith Olberman(disgusting individual that he is) from last night, she is off her rocker yet they are trying portray everyone else as so.

Bottom line, the Left knows they are losing and most of the citizens have finally realized how dangerous and just WRONG Left wing ideology and policies are, so they are acting like babies, getting desperate etc, kind of fun to watch but highly annoying.Six days....

[August]

Originally Posted by Freiwillige

Just speculation here but whose to say that the guys that ripped her to the ground and stepped on her head (Ever so lighty might I point out, wasn't exactly a skinhead boot party) weren't in on the whole thing? Move on.org and their ilk have a history of fraudulent schemes.

Good point. So far there is no proof of that in this case but radical Democrats do have a history of using agent provocateurs and it's definitely the height of stupidity to be stomping someone in front of TV cameras...