Republicans break tax pledge hours after proposing it....

Zachstar · 09-24-10, 12:17 AM

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dc/...e-tax-cut.html

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Four hours after the GOP rolled out its new campaign manifesto, a bill containing $12 billion in tax cuts for small business passed on a 237-187 vote in the House. Rep. Walter Jones (R-N.C.) was the lone Republican to vote for the measure.

“By breaking one of their top pledges within hours of making it, Republicans proved that you can put as much stock into their promises as you can a promise made at a Lindsay Lohan probation hearing,” snapped Democratic National Committee spokesman Hari Sevugan.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dc/...#ixzz10QATKF5S

The republican defence was just as pathetic.. Oh now so helping small biz is bailouts and tax increases?

This "Pledge to America" Is starting to be a dream come true for democrats picking it apart piece by piece to show how republicans vote against what they stand for time and time again.

GoldenRivet · 09-24-10, 12:34 AM

both of those parties are out of contention for a while - with any luck

Zachstar · 09-24-10, 06:19 AM

Stewart TORE APART that idiotic pledge. Showing it to be about as Bush Era as it gets.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/9...dge-to-America!

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So two years ago, just to get this straight, two years ago America broke up with you, because you had badly mistreated her. And so you disappear, do some soul-searching, get your head together, and you come back rapping on our door, hat in hand, and you say, "Baby, I know you love me. But if we get back together, I pledge to you, I promise you, I will still try to **** your sister every chance I get. It's who I am, baby! It's who I am! Now, make up your mind, because I'm not going to ask you twice!

krashkart · 09-24-10, 06:31 AM

^^ LOL Ain't that the truth.

Somehow I'm just not surprised. Regardless of which party makes a "pledge", we can certainly count on promises not being kept.

Blood_splat · 09-24-10, 08:10 AM

There's only one party and that's the business/corporate party.

mookiemookie · 09-24-10, 08:28 AM

HR 5297 is a good bill. Small business lending has been stagnant, and anything that can help prime the pump to get credit flowing in the SBA space is money well spent. I don't have the chart in front of me, but SBA loan volume plummeted after the 90% guarantee expired a few months ago (SBA loans are normally 80% guaranteed by the SBA.) This bill will extend the 90% provision and increase max loan size.

Stop being so partisan and look at things more pragmatically.

August · 09-24-10, 08:54 AM

So what you're saying is that just because just ONE Republican voted for a tax bill that means the RepublicanS broke their tax pledge?

You Democrats sure are sounding more and more desperate to deflect public attention from your upcoming November train wreck.

SteamWake · 09-24-10, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by August

So what you're saying is that just because just ONE Republican voted for a tax bill that means the RepublicanS broke their tax pledge?

You Democrats sure are sounding more and more desperate to deflect public attention from your upcoming November train wreck.

Thats exactly what is being said.

Walter Jones at that .. not exactly a 'staunch conservative'.

If conservatives do adhere to the tennants of this proposal it will be the liberals worst nightmare as it is exactly what a substantial proportion of the citizenship is looking for and directly contrary to the liberal agenda.

I guess the libs are saying "Hey were all for bigger goverment and higher taxes !!!"

I see this as a pre-emptive strike.

Takeda Shingen · 09-24-10, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dc/...e-tax-cut.html

The republican defence was just as pathetic.. Oh now so helping small biz is bailouts and tax increases?

This "Pledge to America" Is starting to be a dream come true for democrats picking it apart piece by piece to show how republicans vote against what they stand for time and time again.

Isn't this the kind of knee-jerk reaction that you were just deriding Team R for?

SteamWake · 09-24-10, 10:45 AM

Also forgot to mention that the 'pledge' basically says "If we (conservatives not R vs D) gain control of congress agin, we pledge to stand by these standards".

Well right now they do not have contorl of congress and the climate on capitol hill is us tax and spend kensyian economic model vs them lower taxes smaller goverment and the one senator decided to join the 'us'.

Takeda Shingen · 09-24-10, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Also forgot to mention that the 'pledge' basically says "If we (conservatives not R vs D) gain control of congress agin, we pledge to stand by these standards".

I disagree with that, especially given the fact that the banner headline reads 'The 2010 Republican Agenda'.

http://pledge.gop.gov/

mookiemookie · 09-24-10, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

If conservatives do adhere to the tennants of this proposal it will be the liberals worst nightmare as it is exactly what a substantial proportion of the citizenship is looking for and directly contrary to the liberal agenda.

How is it any liberals worst nightmare? Its full of the same stuff (in some cases word for word same stuff) they were saying back when they got their asses thrown out in 2006 and 2008. Heck, even the same stuff recycled from the 1994 Contract with America. And none of that got done either.

This is nothing new or different from the GOP.

razark · 09-24-10, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by August

So what you're saying is that just because just ONE Republican voted for a tax bill that means the RepublicanS broke their tax pledge?

No, it says Republicans, except for one, failed to vote for tax cuts, except for one.

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a bill containing $12 billion in tax cuts for small business... Rep. Walter Jones (R-N.C.) was the lone Republican to vote for the measure.

SteamWake · 09-24-10, 12:07 PM

I'll just make one last point and back out of this 'discussion' because I know it is pointless in that no one will change their minds.

At least the republicans present a plan and if you read it you will see it is very much NOT "buisness as usuall".

Yall enjoy your talking points now.

mookiemookie · 09-24-10, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

At least the republicans present a plan and if you read it you will see it is very much NOT "buisness as usuall".

Be amazed as Jon Stewart proves that it is indeed by matching these "new ideas" said yesterday word for word with "new ideas" said 7 years ago:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/th...rom-the-pledge

Boehner 2010 repeating word for word what he said in 1998 (@ 2:54 in the video) was especially priceless.

If you believe this stuff, I have a bridge to sell you.

09-24-10, 12:34 AM	#2
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09-24-10, 08:28 AM	#6
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	HR 5297 is a good bill. Small business lending has been stagnant, and anything that can help prime the pump to get credit flowing in the SBA space is money well spent. I don't have the chart in front of me, but SBA loan volume plummeted after the 90% guarantee expired a few months ago (SBA loans are normally 80% guaranteed by the SBA.) This bill will extend the 90% provision and increase max loan size. Stop being so partisan and look at things more pragmatically. __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	So what you're saying is that just because just ONE Republican voted for a tax bill that means the RepublicanS broke their tax pledge? You Democrats sure are sounding more and more desperate to deflect public attention from your upcoming November train wreck. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

09-24-10, 10:45 AM	#10
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Also forgot to mention that the 'pledge' basically says "If we (conservatives not R vs D) gain control of congress agin, we pledge to stand by these standards". Well right now they do not have contorl of congress and the climate on capitol hill is us tax and spend kensyian economic model vs them lower taxes smaller goverment and the one senator decided to join the 'us'. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

09-24-10, 12:07 PM	#14
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I'll just make one last point and back out of this 'discussion' because I know it is pointless in that no one will change their minds. At least the republicans present a plan and if you read it you will see it is very much NOT "buisness as usuall". Yall enjoy your talking points now. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

09-24-10, 06:31 AM	#4
krashkart Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,292 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	^^ LOL Ain't that the truth. Somehow I'm just not surprised. Regardless of which party makes a "pledge", we can certainly count on promises not being kept.

09-24-10, 08:10 AM	#5
Blood_splat Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Beneath the waves Posts: 568 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	There's only one party and that's the business/corporate party.