I guess her teleprompter broke down?

[Bubblehead1980]

All politicians have bad moments (Obama has had quite a few) and slip ups.Brewer is rather courageous to sign the law she did and take a stand against the dangerous issue of illegal immigration.Of course the open borders people whine and cry racism but she's doing well and obviously most people in her state think so.

[Zachstar]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

All politicians have bad moments (Obama has had quite a few) and slip ups.Brewer is rather courageous to sign the law she did and take a stand against the dangerous issue of illegal immigration.Of course the open borders people whine and cry racism but she's doing well and obviously most people in her state think so.

You are kidding right?

She gets asked to go back on an obviously state damaging and incorrect statement (Headless bodies In AZ) And her first response is to attack labor. And ran away from reporters.

You call that politically courageous? Republicans are in trouble in they can't stare reality in the face.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Republicans are in trouble in they can't stare reality in the face.

the same could be said of Democrats.

this country is more divided than it probably ever has been since the civil war.... there is the reality both "sides" could stand to take a good, hard look at

fact remains that illegal immigration is a very serious issue, one that democrats dont seem to care about. Their solution is amnesty - which does not address the problem - it encourages MORE illegals to flood into this nation.

im all about immigration reform, but i also think more should be done to put a stop to illegal immigration... I fully support the proof of citizenship law, but thats just me.

Personally i think there should be exorbitant fines or even jail time for anyone caught doing business of any kind with illegal immigrants - renting them property, selling them goods... anything.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Personally i think there should be exorbitant fines or even jail time for anyone caught doing business of any kind with illegal immigrants - renting them property, selling them goods... anything.

Cut off the head and the body will die. You can't fault illegals for fulfilling a demand that we ourselves have created.

[Zachstar]

Why can't we have middle ground instead of extreme laws? I fully support spending federal treasure to build a slew of drones to support border patrol. Why? Because that is the ONLY way to seriously put a dent in it.

Another tho far less effective due to the politics is far tougher measures to make companies that hire them live in fear but pro-business groups will shut that down fast. With the bullcrap excuses like. "Who will pick the grapes?" Guess what AMERICANS will when they are forced to pay a proper wage to attract help.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Cut off the head and the body will die. You can't fault illegals for fulfilling a demand that we ourselves have created.

What demand are you referring to exactly?

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

What demand are you referring to exactly?

He's referring to how many of us (legal citizens) readily and gladly pay illegals to perform our menial tasks for us. I tend to agree with him, although I still think border control is the first step.

[Zachstar]

Speaking of cutting off heads. She finally backtracked on the Headless bodies idiocy.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Aramike

He's referring to how many of us (legal citizens) readily and gladly pay illegals to perform our menial tasks for us. I tend to agree with him, although I still think border control is the first step.

You have to treat the underlying disease and not just the symptoms. If you scare people away from hiring them, they will have no jobs and no reason to come here. Border control will fall into place and be much easier (read: less expensive) after that. As it is, you're just playing whack a mole....you'll never catch them all, no matter how many troops you put on the border.

I've said it before, it's hard to have sympathy for anyone in this debate. The illegals who sit there and get all hurt and upset and act genuinely shocked when we decide to actually do something about them, you know, breaking the law. But then it's hard to also have sympathy for people screaming about border fences and the national guard, and then turning around and hiring a crew of illegals to paint their house.