Gun Control issues

[ETR3(SS)]

"Guns that can take high-capacity magazines are a threat to public safety," said Dennis Henigan of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. "Even though they are old, these guns could deliver a great amount of firepower. So I think the Obama administration's concerns are well-taken."

M1 Garand facts:
Magazine capacity: 8 rounds en bloc internal
Caliber: .30-06
Action: Semi-Automatic

M1 Carbine facts:
Magazine capacity: 30 round detachable magazine(illegal in CA,MA,MD,NY, AND NY)
Caliber: .30 carbine
Action: Semi-Automatic


Now for some facts about both, like where you can obtain these rifles in the US already...legally...

Your local gun store
CMP http://www.thecmp.org/
Fulton Armory http://www.fulton-armory.com/
Auto-Ordnance http://www.auto-ordnance.com/PA-1AO_m1.html

...and the list goes on. These rifles are already in the country and owned legally by many people. Shame on the entire federal government for playing these games and giving people who want answers the run around.

[Ducimus]

Yeah, I was about to say... an M1 rilfle is NOT a "high capacity" magazine. 8 shot internal. Like a freaking home defense shotgun.

Frankly im slightly irked that they'd want to destroy these historical arms.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

Now for some facts about both, like where you can obtain these rifles in the US already...legally...

Your local gun store
CMP http://www.thecmp.org/
Fulton Armory http://www.fulton-armory.com/
Auto-Ordnance http://www.auto-ordnance.com/PA-1AO_m1.html

...and the list goes on. These rifles are already in the country and owned legally by many people. Shame on the entire federal government for playing these games and giving people who want answers the run around.

Thanks for the links, I was thinking about buying a inexpensive WWII era military type rifle for target shooting and recreation. But that will have to wait a couple of years since I just got accepted to college and I can't keep a firearm in the dorms.

[ETR3(SS)]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Thanks for the links, I was thinking about buying a inexpensive WWII era military type rifle for target shooting and recreation. But that will have to wait a couple of years since I just got accepted to college and I can't keep a firearm in the dorms.

No problem. One thing you should consider though is what you want to do with the gun. If you want to take it out to the range, one of the new manufactures would be in order.

Back on topic.

But because the guns were given to South Korea by the U.S. government, they fall under a special category that requires permission from the State Department before any sale.

Now I'm assuming (cause that's all we can do at this point while everybody plays the deferment game) that these weapons are the sole property of South Korea. If the State Department has a problem with that, then let the CMP acquire these weapons and distribute accordingly.

[bookworm_020]

Lead pellets was removed from shotgun shell rounds here in Australia a few years back. There wasn't much of a fuss.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by bookworm_020

Lead pellets was removed from shotgun shell rounds here in Australia a few years back. There wasn't much of a fuss.

Because no one was looking to use this as some weired "omg he's dun stealin' our guns!" thing.

[Ducimus]

We do have steel shot you know. Primarly for environmental reasons i think. Not sure if its mandantory for things like duck hunting or not.

As gun control goes, it's always been a slippery slope IMO. Some items, I agree, have no business in the hands of a civilian. Say for example, a 50 caliber sniper rifle, or an M-16 or AK varient. I say that with GREAT hesitation, because M-16's and the like ARE fun to target shoot with, and I'd hate to advocate for anything that would deny me the opportunity to enjoy some fun at the range with said firearms. Infact, once in awhile, i find myself feeling nostalgic, wishing I could handle one again. But I degress, i wouldn't want said firearms in the hands of Gang bangers (who manage to get them anway)

But one has to draw a line. Banning things like M1 Garands, in any way shape or form is going over that line. Way over that line. That's just idiocy. M1 Carbines, im not so sure about. I think that might be going a little over the line too. But If we were talking fully automatic Thompsons, or BAR's, id be singing a different tune as gun control goes.

[August]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

But If we were talking fully automatic Thompsons, or BAR's, id be singing a different tune as gun control goes.

Not me. Legal full autos are already highly regulated and the people who own them are investigated very thoroughly. In their hands these weapons would be safer than if they stay sitting in some ill guarded foreign warehouse unwanted and forgotten.

The best gun control is with two hands and close to your body.

[August]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Because no one was looking to use this as some weired "omg he's dun stealin' our guns!" thing.

The proposed EPA lead ban was on all types of ammunition, not just shotgun pellets. Since the substitute, copper, is far more expensive it's mainly an attempt to price the cost of ammo out of even more peoples ability to buy it and pissing off every gun owner in the process.

Dumb move in an election year Democrats...

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by August

The proposed EPA lead ban was on all types of ammunition, not just shotgun pellets. Since the substitute, copper, is far more expensive it's mainly an attempt to price the cost of ammo out of even more peoples ability to buy it and pissing off every gun owner in the process.

Dumb move in an election year Democrats...

I missed the buss on that one. When was that? Not something currently in legislative process I hope.