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SteamWake 09-02-10 10:30 AM

Gun Control issues
 
In yet another policy about face...

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The Obama administration approved the sale of the American-made rifles last year. But it reversed course and banned the sale in March – a decision that went largely unnoticed at the time but that is now sparking opposition from gun rights advocates.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...est=latestnews

Oh and if you cant control the guns try to control the ammo

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In a swift and unexpected decision, the epa-surrenders-to-nra-on-gun-control-issue-epa-rejects-attempt-to-regulate-lead-in-bullets-after-nra-protests Environmental Agency today rejected a petition from environmental groups to ban the use of lead in bullets and shotgun shells, claiming it doesn't have jurisdiction to weigh on the controversial Second Amendment issue. The decision came just hours after the Drudge Report posted stories from Washington Whispers and the Weekly Standard about how gun groups were fighting the lead bullet ban.
http://politics.usnews.com/news/wash...-protests.html

Sorry about the formatting.

nikimcbee 09-02-10 11:31 AM

Funny, I just got a NRA application in the mail...:hmmm:

August 09-02-10 11:35 AM

The Dems have been courting gun owners for the past couple of years and now, just in time for the election, they are shooting themselves in the foot.

It's like they actually want to loose control of the government.

Konovalov 09-02-10 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1483422)
The Dems have been courting gun owners for the past couple of years and now, just in time for the election, they are shooting themselves in the foot.

Perhaps they should take the guns and ammo away from only themselves and hence they won't be ale to shoot themselves in the foot. ;)

I thought President Obama was going to really focus now on the US economy? :hmm2:

nikimcbee 09-02-10 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Konovalov (Post 1483425)
I thought President Obama was no going to really focus now on the US economy? :hmm2:

He has a busy golf schedule though, then he has to take a vacation from the taxing golf schedule to relax from the stress of golf. He might drop by the white house to have his golf pants cleaned.

It depends on what the telepromter tells him to do.

Konovalov 09-02-10 12:29 PM

Does anyone know what his handicap is?

Tribesman 09-02-10 12:50 PM

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Does anyone know what his handicap is?
His mouth.

ETR3(SS) 09-02-10 01:13 PM

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"Guns that can take high-capacity magazines are a threat to public safety," said Dennis Henigan of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. "Even though they are old, these guns could deliver a great amount of firepower. So I think the Obama administration's concerns are well-taken."
M1 Garand facts:
Magazine capacity: 8 rounds en bloc internal
Caliber: .30-06
Action: Semi-Automatic

M1 Carbine facts:
Magazine capacity: 30 round detachable magazine(illegal in CA,MA,MD,NY, AND NY)
Caliber: .30 carbine
Action: Semi-Automatic


Now for some facts about both, like where you can obtain these rifles in the US already...legally...

Your local gun store
CMP http://www.thecmp.org/
Fulton Armory http://www.fulton-armory.com/
Auto-Ordnance http://www.auto-ordnance.com/PA-1AO_m1.html

...and the list goes on. These rifles are already in the country and owned legally by many people. Shame on the entire federal government for playing these games and giving people who want answers the run around. :nope:

Ducimus 09-02-10 01:26 PM

Yeah, I was about to say... an M1 rilfle is NOT a "high capacity" magazine. 8 shot internal. Like a freaking home defense shotgun.

Frankly im slightly irked that they'd want to destroy these historical arms.

TLAM Strike 09-02-10 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS) (Post 1483499)
Now for some facts about both, like where you can obtain these rifles in the US already...legally...

Your local gun store
CMP http://www.thecmp.org/
Fulton Armory http://www.fulton-armory.com/
Auto-Ordnance http://www.auto-ordnance.com/PA-1AO_m1.html

...and the list goes on. These rifles are already in the country and owned legally by many people. Shame on the entire federal government for playing these games and giving people who want answers the run around. :nope:

Thanks for the links, I was thinking about buying a inexpensive WWII era military type rifle for target shooting and recreation. But that will have to wait a couple of years since I just got accepted to college and I can't keep a firearm in the dorms.

FIREWALL 09-02-10 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1483487)
His mouth.


:har: :rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::r otfl2::har:

ETR3(SS) 09-02-10 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1483511)
Thanks for the links, I was thinking about buying a inexpensive WWII era military type rifle for target shooting and recreation. But that will have to wait a couple of years since I just got accepted to college and I can't keep a firearm in the dorms.

No problem.:salute: One thing you should consider though is what you want to do with the gun. If you want to take it out to the range, one of the new manufactures would be in order.

Back on topic.
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But because the guns were given to South Korea by the U.S. government, they fall under a special category that requires permission from the State Department before any sale.
Now I'm assuming (cause that's all we can do at this point while everybody plays the deferment game) that these weapons are the sole property of South Korea. If the State Department has a problem with that, then let the CMP acquire these weapons and distribute accordingly.

bookworm_020 09-02-10 07:42 PM

Lead pellets was removed from shotgun shell rounds here in Australia a few years back. There wasn't much of a fuss.

mookiemookie 09-02-10 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bookworm_020 (Post 1483716)
Lead pellets was removed from shotgun shell rounds here in Australia a few years back. There wasn't much of a fuss.

Because no one was looking to use this as some weired "omg he's dun stealin' our guns!" thing.

Ducimus 09-02-10 08:27 PM

We do have steel shot you know. Primarly for environmental reasons i think. Not sure if its mandantory for things like duck hunting or not.

As gun control goes, it's always been a slippery slope IMO. Some items, I agree, have no business in the hands of a civilian. Say for example, a 50 caliber sniper rifle, or an M-16 or AK varient. I say that with GREAT hesitation, because M-16's and the like ARE fun to target shoot with, and I'd hate to advocate for anything that would deny me the opportunity to enjoy some fun at the range with said firearms. Infact, once in awhile, i find myself feeling nostalgic, wishing I could handle one again. But I degress, i wouldn't want said firearms in the hands of Gang bangers (who manage to get them anway)

But one has to draw a line. Banning things like M1 Garands, in any way shape or form is going over that line. Way over that line. That's just idiocy. M1 Carbines, im not so sure about. I think that might be going a little over the line too. But If we were talking fully automatic Thompsons, or BAR's, id be singing a different tune as gun control goes.


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