This sickens me

[onelifecrisis]

Build. More. Prisons.

It's not rocket science.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

Build. More. Prisons.

It's not rocket science.

Hasn't worked here in the 'states.

[CaptainHaplo]

At the age they are - 20 years per murder (40 total) would be appropriate. Good Behavior could cut that in half. That means at 35 the might have a shot at being reformed.

Jail is NOT just about keeping bad elements out of society - its purpose is to rehabilitate. Unfortunately, there is little real push in the system to do this, and there is little drive by the incarcerated to reform.

This is why building more jails doesn't work. If you are incarcerated for more than one year - you should not be eligible for release on "time served" unless you have a marketable or trade skill that will enable you to "go straight". That means if you sit on your ass the whole time and do nothing, you might spend 20 years in simply because you are unwilling to make yourself an asset to society and able to make your way legitimately. I'd rather pay for that person - who WILL commit more crime if they get out - to stay in jail, than I would for someone who works to rehabilitate themselves.

Not saying this is the way to do things - but there needs to be some measure of accountability in the "justice" system - on both the sides of justice and mercy.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Dowly

I curse around my mother, so does that mean I can curse here too?

Y'all wouldn't believe the language I use around Dowly's mother

European countries are founded on monoculturalism, not multiculturalism.

Danskfolk speaks again.
I wonder how many languages the french people in france have had for many centuries, kinda hard to to have lots of native languages from a european country when that country is a monoculture

The attacks were across ethnic lines, and neither the attackers, nor the victims were britts.

Brits eh. british is an amalgamation of many many cultures, it always has been and it always will be, so again your monoculture claim is absolute rubbish.

[Morts]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Danskfolk speaks again.

no, Snestorm the nationalist speaks again....luckily we dont have many like him over here

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by Morts

no, Snestorm the nationalist speaks again....luckily we dont have many like him over here

is your compatriot, is not it better to confront you with him when he is online?

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Danskfolk speaks again.
I wonder how many languages the french people in france have had for many centuries, kinda hard to to have lots of native languages from a european country when that country is a monoculture

Brits eh. british is an amalgamation of many many cultures, it always has been and it always will be, so again your monoculture claim is absolute rubbish.

It looks like France will be the first land to be swallowed up by Eurabia.
Check out the commie in the driver's seat.
A perfect example of How To Destroy A Country.

Britts:
OK, Tribesman. Let's change the word britts to englishmen.

[Tchocky]

Sarkozy? Commie? I guess that explains why all the ATCO's are on strike..

Originally Posted by Morts

no, Snestorm the nationalist speaks again....luckily we dont have many like him over here

Funny how my party is currently governing, and your Social Democrats have been tossed out of power. Borders make good neighbors.

Sarkozy? Commie?

Don't expect it to make sense.
Though of course sarkozy is a frenchman of mixed cultural heritage and he married a foriegner so he is a prime example of all Snestorms ridiculous fears rolled into one.....if only his skin was a little darker then sne could have a real fit.

Britts:
OK, Tribesman. Let's change the word britts to englishmen.

Ah England so that includes a wealth of cultures and a rich and varied history of immigration since historical records began.
You really are not doing very well with your monoculture examples are you

Funny how my party is currently governing

You mean the crazy nationalists you support are part of a minority coilition where they are just little backbenchers and have no cabinet role.

[jumpy]

Britts to englishmen....hmmm
ok I'll bite - I calls a spade a spade, and whilst the three people in the happy slapping thing are british citizens, they're not white.

I call myself English, because I'm white and was born in england. I guess that makes be british too, but for some reason I see english as more of a term to describe white Britons (at least on all those BS ethnicity forms - I always tick 'other' then write English in the space provided); 'British' has no such connotation imo. I see a difference in that myself, but it's not one I'd fight over or use to denigrate another.

There's plenty of darkies who choose to identify themselves as 'asian british' or 'pakistani-british' or 'afro-carribian-british', deliberately setting themselves apart from their light skinned countrymen. As a Whitey, I see no reason to not to differentiate myself as English. Many ethnic groups, and nationalised Britons choose to identify themselves through their ancestral culture, so why shouldn't I? *

In the end, a little **** is a little ****; it doesn't matter what colour they are. Sadly, in this case, the consequences of being a **** means some poor sod died.
Ignorance, stupidity and immaturity are no excuse for killing someone, even if the intent was only to seek notoriety through this idiotic happy slapping thing. I could see how it might be fun to beat on your mates for a laugh (I've done such things in the past myself), but not a complete stranger. In those terms it's just an unwarranted assault that culminated in a death. At best these two should have been charged with murder and at worst, manslaughter. The colour of their skin has no bearing on their behaviour, bad or otherwise.



* All too often racism is defined by middle-class white people who are offended on behalf of their downtrodden coloured friends... in it's own way that's racist too. Not to mention bloody condescending.

[Morts]

Originally Posted by Snestorm

Funny how my party is currently governing, and your Social Democrats have been tossed out of power. Borders make good neighbors.

social democrats ? you have got to be kidding me !
never could i bring myself to vote for them....

Originally Posted by Morts

social democrats ? you have got to be kidding me !
never could i bring myself to vote for them....

Cool!
There is something we can agree on in politics.

Many ethnic groups, and nationalised Britons choose to identify themselves through their ancestral culture, so why shouldn't I? *

You mean like the welsh british the cornish british or the scots british, not to mention some yorskshiremen to whom being British or english takes second place.
So where does that leave your "darkies" comment?

Though you hit the nail on the head with

The colour of their skin has no bearing on their behaviour, bad or otherwise.

The only people skin colour is an issue for are those that have wierd problems with peoples skin colour ...like the person who brought it into this topic.
So hows about celebrating the british monoculture with a cold german lager and a chicken tikka masala as it don't get more British than that