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Old 07-06-10, 03:45 PM   #1
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I read through the thread over at UBI. I see smoke and mirrors....
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Old 07-06-10, 05:16 PM   #2
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I read through the thread over at UBI. I see smoke and mirrors....
I think this great Charles Durning song and dance clip sums up the situation:



"Was that a yes or a no?" "It's a possible maybe..."
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Old 07-08-10, 11:20 AM   #3
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I read through the thread over at UBI. I see smoke and mirrors....
I think he is the official face on the dartboard. And, I find it hard to believe the "list of game breakers" cannot get compiled from the months of postings here and at the Ubi forum. That would mean no one there has really paid any attention to the threads so far and made their own shopping list. They want us to filter it down to manageable size, box it, and put a bow on top. Better yet, do all the development as well and hand them patch 1.3 to claim credit for.

The series is all but buried. Only the zombies are left!
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Old 07-08-10, 12:20 PM   #4
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I think he is the official face on the dartboard. And, I find it hard to believe the "list of game breakers" cannot get compiled from the months of postings here and at the Ubi forum. That would mean no one there has really paid any attention to the threads so far and made their own shopping list. They want us to filter it down to manageable size, box it, and put a bow on top. Better yet, do all the development as well and hand them patch 1.3 to claim credit for.

The series is all but buried. Only the zombies are left!
Personally I see creating yet another list of fixes and wants is useless. I see smoke and mirror in that thread. The only concrete information we received entail an exchange with Privateer. UBI has not made a decision on making a decision concerning a patch. So lets dissect this. No one in the UBI organization has decided if a boardroom meeting should be held concerning making a decision on creating another patch to repair the game. Welcome to double talk with added smoke and mirrors for effect. In short and as stated by the Community Manager, the parts of the development team that made up the whole are now assigned to some other project. I believe we have seen the end of the line for SH5 and anything concerning a patch.
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They aren't asking for bugs or fixes. They've given up. No one is working on fixes, no one will be working on fixes. It's a black hole.

They have officially stated that it's up to modders to improve the game and the only feedback they are looking for now is an up-to-date list of mods to keep the ComDev busy. Silent Hunter is dead.
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They aren't asking for bugs or fixes. They've given up. No one is working on fixes, no one will be working on fixes. It's a black hole.

They have officially stated that it's up to modders to improve the game and the only feedback they are looking for now is an up-to-date list of mods to keep the ComDev busy. Silent Hunter is dead.
Correct. It was written in that thread that modders should do it. Have a nice day and thanks for your hard earned $$$$ on this game. Sweet UBI...just sweet.....
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So to summarize...

The only person that may actually have a clue about what is going on states that the appointment of a new community manager is not a random occurance but rather of some significance, and then proceeds to give people clear direction on how to possibly take advantage of this and the result is a mixture of cynicism, derision and "I already did that... it's too much trouble to do it again... Let someone else do it" ?

Some people around here should stop looking down their noses at the Ubisoft forums. From where I sit, right now there ain't a lot of difference.

Sadly, that wasn't always the case.

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John,

SH5 does not have and can not have a development team. Noted above... With exception of DRM SH5 is apparently not supported by other entites within the UBI organization. I read nothing more into that thread than modders fix it and there is no team making a patch. Does it really pain UBI to just say a patch is coming? If so why? Because there is no support right now and may never be? That is my guess. Really, just say yes to a patch and keep the release date to whenever ready. Not to difficult.
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Old 07-08-10, 01:45 PM   #10
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Silent Hunter is dead.
I have to agree. The fact that the team is off working on other stuff obviously means they're not working on another SH5 patch. The implications of that are equally obvious.

Striking while the iron is hot (ie, investing in a product only when there is a reasonable chance of a return on investment) is a pretty straight forward business concept. Unfortunately, this iron has gone stone cold.

It seems SH5 is finished as far as UBI is concerned.

IMO, the thing to do then would be to just forget about getting any more help from UBI and either move on (or back) to other games... or jump into the mod action. The question I have is, can all that's seriously wrong with this game be fixed with mods? If too many (and one may be too many) of the really significant short comings are not accessible to modders, then it may not be worth the effort.

I'd really like to know the answer to that one.

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Yup, for now its game over - mods or nothing.
Really this offcial answer is like no answer at all, as not a 'yes' or a 'no' but a 'maybe'.
So we are not much better off.

IMHO The only SH5 patch we will likley see is a no-DRM patch at some point when sales dry up and they wish to re-allocate their server resources to newer products.
Probably won't happen this year though.
I guess a paid expansion is not an impossibility but that depends on SH5's sales.

@ AVG: As to gettting our voices heard, Im not sure there is much point, our voices are really too small for them to really care that much.
Were talking about Silent Hunter, not Assasins Creed, Far Cry or A 'Tom Clancy's - insert title'.
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I have to agree. The fact that the team is off working on other stuff obviously means they're not working on another SH5 patch. The implications of that are equally obvious.

Striking while the iron is hot (ie, investing in a product only when there is a reasonable chance of a return on investment) is a pretty straight forward business concept. Unfortunately, this iron has gone stone cold.

It seems SH5 is finished as far as UBI is concerned.

IMO, the thing to do then would be to just forget about getting any more help from UBI and either move on (or back) to other games... or jump into the mod action. The question I have is, can all that's seriously wrong with this game be fixed with mods? If too many (and one may be too many) of the really significant short comings are not accessible to modders, then it may not be worth the effort.

I'd really like to know the answer to that one.

JD
Silent Hunter is dead?! Of course it's dead. Nothing but smoke and mirrors runaround by Ubisoft. A great way to treat paying customers.

And how anyone here could defend Ubisoft and their horrible business practices is beyond me. There will not be another SH5 patch. It's over. Finished. I will go even one further. Ubisoft as a company nearing it's demise. As of now, they are fighting for their very survival. Their stock values have lost over 90% in the last couple of years. I predict that they won't exist as a company within 1-2 years.
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