A Case study for democrat corruption

06-23-10, 04:31 PM

USA's corruption is bi-partisan.

Platapus · 06-23-10, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Snestorm

USA's corruption is bi-partisan.

It is about the only thing the Republicans and Democrats can agree upon it seems.

I wonder if there has ever been an elected government with political parties that was not filled with corruption?

Maybe there is no escaping it?

nikimcbee · 06-23-10, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

It is about the only thing the Republicans and Democrats can agree upon it seems.

I wonder if there has ever been an elected government with political parties that was not filled with corruption?

Maybe there is no escaping it?

That's a good question.

I guess it's one thing to have one rotten egg. (nixon?), but that whole city is corrupt from stem to stern. I suppose a third party would be nice, but it seems like that just guarantees one party rule, because it splits the opposing party. (see Perot, Nader) Any whoo, I think this trial will expose what absolute one party rule gives us. IMO, some of the principles behind the Constitution were to prevent absolute rule by one group.

nikimcbee · 06-23-10, 07:07 PM

Another good example of this kind of corruption, is Portland, OR

. These guys get what they deserve.

Maybe a side question off Platypus, are there any big, metro/urban areas that aren't hotbeds of political corruption? If there are, I wonder what is different between them and the corrupt urban areas?

Platapus · 06-23-10, 07:13 PM

Well if you want to see corruption, head to the local government level.

August · 06-23-10, 07:51 PM

Perot and Nader failed because they represented the dissatisfied wings of their respective parties. I think for a third party to be successful in the US it would need to draw it's support equally from the centrists of both sides.

Platapus · 06-23-10, 09:06 PM

A nice moderate party? I might just join that

Of course, currently we have three "Third parties" in the United States and have had them for a while

Constitution Party (the third largest political party in the US by the way)
Green Party
Libertarian Party

and those are just the big "third parties" if you want to consider the smaller "third parties" we have a bunch of them

American First Party
America's Independent Party
American Patriot Party
The American Party
Independent American Party
Prohibition Party
Working Families Party
The New Party
Labor Party
Socialist Party USA
Communist Party USA
Socialist Labor Party
Party for Socialism and Liberation
Progressive Labor Party
Socialist Equality Party
Socialist Workers Party
World Socialist Party of the United States
Workers Party, USA
Workers World Party
Centrist Party
Independence Party of America
Modern Whig Party
Reform Party of the United States of America

It is not that we don't have a "third party" it is more like we have too many "third parties" that can't get organized.

gimpy117 · 06-23-10, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Snestorm

USA's corruption is bi-partisan.

Agree about that one. I just don't like finger pointing. Pot calling the kettle and what not.

August · 06-23-10, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gimpy117

Agree about that one. I just don't like finger pointing. Pot calling the kettle and what not.

You didn't seem to have a problem doing just that in the Reagan thread. Now that the subject is a Democrat suddenly you've developed an aversion to finger pointing?

gimpy117 · 06-23-10, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by August

You didn't seem to have a problem doing just that in the Reagan thread. Now that the subject is a Democrat suddenly you've developed an aversion to finger pointing?

I didn't start the topic so...

besides theres a difference between criticizing a non shared behavior and doing it for something that is mutual

06-23-10, 07:07 PM	#4
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Another good example of this kind of corruption, is Portland, OR. These guys get what they deserve. Maybe a side question off Platypus, are there any big, metro/urban areas that aren't hotbeds of political corruption? If there are, I wonder what is different between them and the corrupt urban areas? __________________ Last edited by nikimcbee; 06-23-10 at 07:45 PM.

06-23-10, 07:13 PM	#5
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,381 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Well if you want to see corruption, head to the local government level. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

06-23-10, 07:51 PM	#6
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,216 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Perot and Nader failed because they represented the dissatisfied wings of their respective parties. I think for a third party to be successful in the US it would need to draw it's support equally from the centrists of both sides. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

06-23-10, 09:06 PM	#7
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,381 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	A nice moderate party? I might just join that Of course, currently we have three "Third parties" in the United States and have had them for a while Constitution Party (the third largest political party in the US by the way) Green Party Libertarian Party and those are just the big "third parties" if you want to consider the smaller "third parties" we have a bunch of them American First Party America's Independent Party American Patriot Party The American Party Independent American Party Prohibition Party Working Families Party The New Party Labor Party Socialist Party USA Communist Party USA Socialist Labor Party Party for Socialism and Liberation Progressive Labor Party Socialist Equality Party Socialist Workers Party World Socialist Party of the United States Workers Party, USA Workers World Party Centrist Party Independence Party of America Modern Whig Party Reform Party of the United States of America It is not that we don't have a "third party" it is more like we have too many "third parties" that can't get organized. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

06-23-10, 04:31 PM	#1
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