Has Ubi abandoned us? - Page 2

Sgtmonkeynads · 06-11-10, 03:55 AM

That's what I pray for everytime I come here and look for new mods. The game has come so far in such a short period that I can see an Uber game on the radar, but not the horrizon yet.

And when it does, I hope the Modders put a bow of a ship sticking out of the water in everyport with the letters UBI on it.

krashkart · 06-11-10, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sgtmonkeynads

And when it does, I hope the Modders put a bow of a ship sticking out of the water in everyport with the letters UBI on it.

I like that idea. Sad thing is, Ubi might miss the point and instead see it as free advertising.

commandosolo2009 · 06-11-10, 04:46 AM

Guys it's over even a 2 years old could tell Ubi is shutting this down for Good. Sadly, were stuck with this.. I wish they hadnt rushed production and let devs finish their work.. I had all my saves online and now, I'm using another computer, cant get them to download and synchronise..

It's BYE BYE for SH series...

krashkart · 06-11-10, 05:34 AM

I hope you're wrong about that, commandosolo, but any time I've visited a dead forum for a game I tried to get help with I pretty much knew the company had left it to rot. Haven't been to the Ubi forums at all, except to see kylania's post, so there's the extent of my knowledge.

Sonarman · 06-11-10, 06:19 AM

Where there's life there's hope.... Dan is still a regular visitor here and last posted only a couple of days ago. Sh4 went pretty much the same way after the first patch we heard nothing for a long, long time until the next patch and then the addon. In poor economic times such as these companies will always focus on safe bets, the SH series has given a fair return in the past and the fact that they developed iphone & mobile versions however arcadey shows they at least have some interest in maintaining/expanding the series however misguided the latest incarnations have been.

Hopefully Ubi will now look closely at why SH5 failed and return to the series core strengths. Interestingly every pro review & user review I have read of the iPhone version say the same basic thing reviewers whilst the graphics are good customers want a simulation and not an arcade game even on mobile platforms.

Above and beyond anything else though they need to start listening to and communicating with their customers not just their shareholders.

krashkart · 06-11-10, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonarman

Where there's life there's hope.... Dan is still a regular visitor here and last posted only a couple of days ago. Sh4 went pretty much the same way after the first patch we heard nothing for a long, long time until the next patch and then the addon. In poor economic times such as these companies will always focus on safe bets, the SH series has given a fair return in the past and the fact that they developed iphone & mobile versions however arcadey shows they at least have some interest in maintaining/expanding the series however misguided the latest incarnations have been.

Hopefully Ubi will now look closely at why SH5 failed and return to the series core strengths. Interestingly every pro review & user review I have read of the iPhone version say the same basic thing reviewers whilst the graphics are good customers want a simulation and not an arcade game even on mobile platforms.

Above and beyond anything else though they need to start listening to and communicating with their customers not just their shareholders.

Perhaps a larger portion of shareholders should be gamers. Wonder if enough resources could be pooled to form a gamer "lobby" of sorts? I think we'd have a stronger pull that way, rather than venting in useless threads.

Seeadler · 06-11-10, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonarman

Above and beyond anything else though they need to start listening to and communicating with their customers not just their shareholders.

I think the shareholders are also not so happy

janh · 06-11-10, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonarman

Hopefully Ubi will now look closely at why SH5 failed and return to the series core strengths. Interestingly every pro review & user review I have read of the iPhone version say the same basic thing reviewers whilst the graphics are good customers want a simulation and not an arcade game even on mobile platforms.

Above and beyond anything else though they need to start listening to and communicating with their customers not just their shareholders.

How many times was that hope expressed in the past, particularly after SHIV release? I bet the decision to end SH franchise -- at least for an extended break -- was made by Ubi management already in autumn/winter 2009. To many indications and contradictions with Ubi's new "frequent release" strategy appeared until now, and the decisions to cut the game content and release it prior to thorough debugging and play testing, lack of communication etc -- this all fits only one scenario...

I think Ubisoft as a company is dedicated to make money, pay dividents and expand its reach. And do so with the least investments to get biggest return on those investment. Any franchise like detailed, realistic simulations of any kind do not exactly match that condition. I think they are simply refocusing on different consumer types and markets, and will leave the simulation market to small specialty companies with better expertise to do such "games" with huge dedication, but small market impacts.

Brag · 06-11-10, 08:34 AM

Ignoring yhe wishes and needs of one's hard core customer base has never worked for a company. Ubi has commited a cardinal sin in marketing. I doubt very much they can recover from this fiasco.

GWX plus SH5 graphics without always online requirement could save the SH5 franchise. But does Ubi understand this simple fact?

krashkart · 06-11-10, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Brag

Ignoring yhe wishes and needs of one's hard core customer base has never worked for a company. Ubi has commited a cardinal sin in marketing. I doubt very much they can recover from this fiasco.

GWX plus SH5 graphics without always online requirement could save the SH5 franchise. But does Ubi understand this simple fact?

Of course not, they don't speak our language.

Kptlt Thomsen · 06-11-10, 10:15 AM

...it's been my experience that they don't speak....period.

SteamWake · 06-11-10, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonarman

Where there's life there's hope.... Dan is still a regular visitor here and last posted only a couple of days ago.

Dont confuse the nay sayers with factual accounts.

Noren · 06-11-10, 10:37 AM

Problem is, if they treat us like this: then why would we ever trust them again? Its not just SH-franchise but all their games.

I just saw a E3-interactive youtube-movie - posted on the SH5-ubiforum- and it made me feel sick, they talked about glamorous fan questions etc. What about us then?

AVGWarhawk · 06-11-10, 10:49 AM

06-11-10, 11:15 AM

Because of the way we have been treated with SH5 I refuse to buy spinter cell conviction and assassins creed 2 for my xbox 360.
So it works both ways although with the sales of those 2 games I honestly don't think they would give a S**T
I hate the ubisoft CEO as much as I hate that call of duty twat robert dowling and bobby kotick.
With CEO's it's all about pleasing the shareholders and profits.
All SH5 is to them is profit and if the figures don't match resources dedicated to fixing it then it's the end of the line for SH5.
The fact that the game was released in the state it was means it was pushed out early as no more resources were being dedicated to finishing what the devs wanted.
I wish Dan could tell us the true story to SH5 but as he is still on the ubisoft payroll we will never find out unless they cut the devs.

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06-11-10, 03:55 AM	#16
Sgtmonkeynads Ships Secretary Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MilesCity Montana Posts: 583 Downloads: 614 Uploads: 0	That's what I pray for everytime I come here and look for new mods. The game has come so far in such a short period that I can see an Uber game on the radar, but not the horrizon yet. And when it does, I hope the Modders put a bow of a ship sticking out of the water in everyport with the letters UBI on it. __________________ Just help someone.....it makes a difference

06-11-10, 04:46 AM	#18
commandosolo2009 Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Egypt Posts: 840 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	Guys it's over even a 2 years old could tell Ubi is shutting this down for Good. Sadly, were stuck with this.. I wish they hadnt rushed production and let devs finish their work.. I had all my saves online and now, I'm using another computer, cant get them to download and synchronise.. It's BYE BYE for SH series... __________________ x.com/lexatnews

06-11-10, 05:34 AM	#19
krashkart Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,292 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	I hope you're wrong about that, commandosolo, but any time I've visited a dead forum for a game I tried to get help with I pretty much knew the company had left it to rot. Haven't been to the Ubi forums at all, except to see kylania's post, so there's the extent of my knowledge. __________________ sent from my fingertips using a cheap keyboard

06-11-10, 06:19 AM	#20
Sonarman The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ayr,Scotland,UK Posts: 1,392 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 0	Where there's life there's hope.... Dan is still a regular visitor here and last posted only a couple of days ago. Sh4 went pretty much the same way after the first patch we heard nothing for a long, long time until the next patch and then the addon. In poor economic times such as these companies will always focus on safe bets, the SH series has given a fair return in the past and the fact that they developed iphone & mobile versions however arcadey shows they at least have some interest in maintaining/expanding the series however misguided the latest incarnations have been. Hopefully Ubi will now look closely at why SH5 failed and return to the series core strengths. Interestingly every pro review & user review I have read of the iPhone version say the same basic thing reviewers whilst the graphics are good customers want a simulation and not an arcade game even on mobile platforms. Above and beyond anything else though they need to start listening to and communicating with their customers not just their shareholders. __________________ "The action is simulated...the excitement is real!" Microprose Simulation Software.

06-11-10, 08:34 AM	#24
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Ignoring yhe wishes and needs of one's hard core customer base has never worked for a company. Ubi has commited a cardinal sin in marketing. I doubt very much they can recover from this fiasco. GWX plus SH5 graphics without always online requirement could save the SH5 franchise. But does Ubi understand this simple fact? __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

06-11-10, 10:15 AM	#26
Kptlt Thomsen Bosun Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 68 Downloads: 82 Uploads: 0	...it's been my experience that they don't speak....period. __________________ GWX 3.0 ROCKS!

06-11-10, 10:37 AM	#28
Noren 中国水兵 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 284 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Problem is, if they treat us like this: then why would we ever trust them again? Its not just SH-franchise but all their games. I just saw a E3-interactive youtube-movie - posted on the SH5-ubiforum- and it made me feel sick, they talked about glamorous fan questions etc. What about us then?

06-11-10, 10:49 AM	#29
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06-11-10, 11:15 AM	#30
Barso Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Because of the way we have been treated with SH5 I refuse to buy spinter cell conviction and assassins creed 2 for my xbox 360. So it works both ways although with the sales of those 2 games I honestly don't think they would give a S**T I hate the ubisoft CEO as much as I hate that call of duty twat robert dowling and bobby kotick. With CEO's it's all about pleasing the shareholders and profits. All SH5 is to them is profit and if the figures don't match resources dedicated to fixing it then it's the end of the line for SH5. The fact that the game was released in the state it was means it was pushed out early as no more resources were being dedicated to finishing what the devs wanted. I wish Dan could tell us the true story to SH5 but as he is still on the ubisoft payroll we will never find out unless they cut the devs.