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Originally Posted by antikristuseke

Dont´'t disagree with anything you have said here.

But I do project some disdain towards Russians here in Estonia who flat out refuse to learn the language, but still demand citizenship and other assorted problems from that contingent of people.

Totally understandable. While I think many Russians are treated kind of unfairly in the Baltic just because they're Russian, I think some of the habits have to change. Russians have plenty to learn of good civic habits there anyway - I just wish both sides would tone down the nationalism a little. When I went to Estonia in the early 90s, it really struck me how much more civil, clean and quiet the place seemed than neighbouring Russia. Those things are worth protecting from too much Russian influence than national identity as such, I think.

I have a lot of relatives in Estonia (ironically, they're more German and Swedish by blood than Russian) and most of them, I would say, are doing pretty well. They're not stuck on national identity and are active members of their communities instead. I wish everyone could just do that.