Silent Hunter 3 vs. Silent Hunter 5 ... who's the best?

Moeceefus · 05-26-10, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Faamecanic

Again no offense intended to all our modders here....

Try playing SH 3 with GWX loaded, start off in say 1943....

Tell me if the first convoy you hit:

1) you either die before you even get to a convoy because the AI is that good, and your using vanilla tactics

2) if you DO live... tell me your not pooping your pants during the 3-4 hours you spend trying to evade the ticked of DD's....

Sorry...as pretty as SH5 is.... it cant hold a candle to the AI in GWX. And AI has Z E R O to do with grahpic improvements.... the scripting is about the same in SH5 as SH3.... but yet the devs, with the source code and money, still made the AI as dumb as a box of rocks.

lets at least compare them both stock to be fair, or give sh5 time to catch up in the mod department. it wont take as long as sh3 took to be good i bet

Faamecanic · 05-26-10, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Moeceefus

lets at least compare them both stock to be fair, or give sh5 time to catch up in the mod department. it wont take as long as sh3 took to be good i bet

But that is hardly fair, as discussed in another thread (or was it this one).

SH5 has had the benefit of TIME. TIME the Devs should have used outside a vacuum to see what made GWX such a huge hit.

Instead when SH 5 STILL has SH 3 bugs in it...I think it perfectly fair to compare the two.

AS · 05-26-10, 03:17 PM

Those guys who praise SH3 now seem to have forgotten how crappy it used to be when it was released. Most people around here (me, too) spent a lot of time on SH3 bashing. So I guess SH5 just keeps in line with all former releases (not to mention SH2...).
We shouldn´t blame Ubisoft for all those unfinished games. It´s not crap, it´s TRADITION!

Cheers, AS

tonschk · 05-26-10, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AS

Those guys who praise SH3 now seem to have forgotten how crappy it used to be when it was released. Most people around here (me, too) spent a lot of time on SH3 bashing. So I guess SH5 just keeps in line with all former releases (not to mention SH2...).
We shouldn´t blame Ubisoft for all those unfinished games. It´s not crap, it´s TRADITION!

Cheers, AS

The Silent Hunter 3

Game is OVER , Now The Future Belong to

Silent Hunter 5

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SteelViking · 05-26-10, 11:55 PM

Now, I may be a defender of SH5, but I disagree with you on this one tonschk. The early games will never be over. There are many who talk about firing up some real old subsims, and that they still love em. And, I am sure that SHIII and SHIV will continue to be modded for a long time to come, though it may be less and less over time.

I myself started with SHIII soon after it came out and I have seen its bad side, but it was my first subsim ever. I know that there is no way I could ever think of SHIII as dead. Just because you think that SH5 should or will become the number one subsim(as I do), does not mean the others have to left in the dust.

jwilliams · 05-27-10, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelViking

The early games will never be over. There are many who talk about firing up some real old subsims, and that they still love em.

I have "Silent Service II" on my HD, have to use Dosbox to run it. This was the first Subsim that i ever played. I still fire it up every now and then, for nostalgia.

Sailor Steve · 05-27-10, 12:10 AM

Earlier today I was playing Aces Of The Deep.

Sailor Steve · 05-26-10, 11:58 PM

We all agree it's beautiful. Can you say what else it has to offer? When do I get my Type II? When will it have more than 80 different merchant classes? Maybe the future does belong to SH5. I certainly hope so. But for the present they won't even let some of us play it.

Oh, and those .png pictures eat up a lot of bandwidth and take forever to load.

Reece · 05-27-10, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by tonschk

The Silent Hunter 3

Game is OVER , Now The Future Belong to

Silent Hunter 5

The Silent Hunter 5

Game is OVER and broken, Now The Future will always Belong to

Silent Hunter 3

Silent Hunter III Works from 39 to 45, good AI, many ships, and no Online DRM!! etc etc.

THE_MASK · 05-27-10, 01:34 AM

We wont stop modding till SH5 is better than SH3 so there . It might take a while but it will happen .

Moeceefus · 05-27-10, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by sober

We wont stop modding till SH5 is better than SH3 so there . It might take a while but it will happen .

three cheers for you good sir, and many thanks

flakmonkey · 05-27-10, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tonschk

The Silent Hunter 3

Game is OVER , Now The Future Belong to

Silent Hunter 5

Im not convinced... at the moment theres nothing that sh5 does that sh3 doesnt (cept the gfx of course) and there are a whole bunch of things that sh3 can do that shv doesnt, like a full dynamic campaign etc.

The only thing i can think of that shV has that sh3 doesnt is the crew interaction/rpg stuff, which would be brilliant if it wasnt so limited in what they say, you can only have the same conversation so many times!

+Shv kind of went downhill for me after a saw a German flagged liberty ship!

Bilge_Rat · 05-27-10, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by flakmonkey

there are a whole bunch of things that sh3 can do that shv doesnt, like a full dynamic campaign etc.

SH5 also has a dynamic campaign, same engine as in SH3, although with many underlying improvements.

I presume you meant that the SH5 campaign ends in 43.

Although I never really understood why this was such a big issue, after may 43, U-Boats are just targets waiting to be killed.

robbo180265 · 05-27-10, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

SH5 also has a dynamic campaign, same engine as in SH3, although with many underlying improvements.

I presume you meant that the SH5 campaign ends in 43.

Although I never really understood why this was such a big issue, after may 43, U-Boats are just targets waiting to be killed.

I guess from my point of view - it gives you easy mode only.

I actually prefer going out from '43 onwards and not knowing if you'll make it back, makes it all the sweeter if you do

But as I said earlier - just because I like it doesn't mean everyone does or should.

kiwi_2005 · 05-27-10, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tonschk

The Silent Hunter 3

Game is OVER , Now The Future Belong to

Silent Hunter 5

Gotta admit SH5 does look terrific. SH3 nor SH4 graphics will never better what SH5 can give us in the gfx. Yeah i know good graphics does not always make a good game, but its a damn beauty.

05-26-10, 03:17 PM	#3
AS 中国水兵 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 275 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 0	Those guys who praise SH3 now seem to have forgotten how crappy it used to be when it was released. Most people around here (me, too) spent a lot of time on SH3 bashing. So I guess SH5 just keeps in line with all former releases (not to mention SH2...). We shouldn´t blame Ubisoft for all those unfinished games. It´s not crap, it´s TRADITION! Cheers, AS __________________ Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong. (Oscar Wilde)

05-26-10, 11:55 PM	#5
SteelViking The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: U.S.A.-East Coast Posts: 1,587 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 4	Now, I may be a defender of SH5, but I disagree with you on this one tonschk. The early games will never be over. There are many who talk about firing up some real old subsims, and that they still love em. And, I am sure that SHIII and SHIV will continue to be modded for a long time to come, though it may be less and less over time. I myself started with SHIII soon after it came out and I have seen its bad side, but it was my first subsim ever. I know that there is no way I could ever think of SHIII as dead. Just because you think that SH5 should or will become the number one subsim(as I do), does not mean the others have to left in the dust. __________________ He sank 198,650 tons....who you ask?....Erich Topp, that's who!

05-27-10, 12:10 AM	#7
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Earlier today I was playing Aces Of The Deep. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

05-26-10, 11:58 PM	#8
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	We all agree it's beautiful. Can you say what else it has to offer? When do I get my Type II? When will it have more than 80 different merchant classes? Maybe the future does belong to SH5. I certainly hope so. But for the present they won't even let some of us play it. Oh, and those .png pictures eat up a lot of bandwidth and take forever to load. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

05-27-10, 01:34 AM	#10
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	We wont stop modding till SH5 is better than SH3 so there . It might take a while but it will happen .