Silent Hunter 3 vs. Silent Hunter 5 ... who's the best? - Page 10

kiwi_2005 · 05-27-10, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tonschk

The Silent Hunter 3

Game is OVER , Now The Future Belong to

Silent Hunter 5

Gotta admit SH5 does look terrific. SH3 nor SH4 graphics will never better what SH5 can give us in the gfx. Yeah i know good graphics does not always make a good game, but its a damn beauty.

Bilge_Rat · 05-27-10, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by flakmonkey

there are a whole bunch of things that sh3 can do that shv doesnt, like a full dynamic campaign etc.

SH5 also has a dynamic campaign, same engine as in SH3, although with many underlying improvements.

I presume you meant that the SH5 campaign ends in 43.

Although I never really understood why this was such a big issue, after may 43, U-Boats are just targets waiting to be killed.

robbo180265 · 05-27-10, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

SH5 also has a dynamic campaign, same engine as in SH3, although with many underlying improvements.

I presume you meant that the SH5 campaign ends in 43.

Although I never really understood why this was such a big issue, after may 43, U-Boats are just targets waiting to be killed.

I guess from my point of view - it gives you easy mode only.

I actually prefer going out from '43 onwards and not knowing if you'll make it back, makes it all the sweeter if you do

But as I said earlier - just because I like it doesn't mean everyone does or should.

kylania · 05-27-10, 11:36 PM

There's nothing stopping a campaign from running the whole war. The devs just didn't fill that part out. Players have the Mission Editor and can expand the campaign if they want.

So saying that SH5 sucks because it doesn't have the whole war is really just being short sighted. When people talk about the end war in SH3, they sure aren't talking about the stock campaign. They are talking about a reworked modded campaign. The exact same thing you'll see with SH5.

Sailor Steve · 05-28-10, 01:55 AM

^ ^ ^ ^ ^

As I said when people first complained about it. Any of the SH3 supermods, as wall as RSRDC for SH4, have completely reworked the campaign from the ground up. There is pretty much nothing left of the stock campaigns in SH3 or SH4 in any version anybody is playing. There is no reason SH5's won't be even better once people figure out how to adapt it to their desires. Actually I also said some time ago that that may be the reason SH5's campaign is unfinished. The devs knew that no matter how much work they put into it, it would be dumped at the first chance.

As for there only being one class of u-boat, I imagine there is a huge amount of work to put everything in that has been put into this one boat. More can be added, and I hope they will.

The real complaints about SH5 are the ones about the bugs that never got fixed from one generation to the next. I'm hoping that this will all be ironed out before they're done with it. We can only wait and see.

Currently people are still playing SH3 and SH4 because those games are more complete, and SH5 still needs a lot of work. As I've also said before, there is every chance that when SH5 has had the time that the others have it really will put them to shame. Right now it won't let me play in a Type II, or play in the Pacific. So for now the older games are not "better", but they are more desirable for anyone who wants to play within that context.

People should learn how to state their preferences and their opinions without condemnatory remarks such as "It sucks" and "It rules". SH5 doesn't rule yet, nor does it truly suck. People who are enjoying it are doing so because it fills their idea of what a subsim should be. Those who aren't play the older versions because for now those fill their idea of what a subsim should be.

It is possible to discuss and even disagree without shouting and screaming about how you're right and anybody who doesn't agree is an idiot.

SteelViking · 05-28-10, 02:28 AM

Nice post Sailor Stevet! I pretty much agree with you on all accounts.

Jimbuna · 05-28-10, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

People should learn how to state their preferences and their opinions without condemnatory remarks such as "It sucks" and "It rules". SH5 doesn't rule yet, nor does it truly suck. People who are enjoying it are doing so because it fills their idea of what a subsim should be. Those who aren't play the older versions because for now those fill their idea of what a subsim should be.

It is possible to discuss and even disagree without shouting and screaming about how you're right and anybody who doesn't agree is an idiot.

Best post I've read on the subject in a good while

JScones · 05-28-10, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by sailor steve

people should learn how to state their preferences and their opinions without condemnatory remarks such as "it sucks" and "it rules". Sh5 doesn't rule yet, nor does it truly suck. People who are enjoying it are doing so because it fills their idea of what a subsim should be. Those who aren't play the older versions because for now those fill their idea of what a subsim should be.

It is possible to discuss and even disagree without shouting and screaming about how you're right and anybody who doesn't agree is an idiot.

You're wrong, SH5 SUX RULERS!

ReallyDedPoet · 05-28-10, 07:08 AM

robbo180265 · 05-28-10, 09:26 AM

Excellent post Steve - sums up my thoughts on the whole thing too

Sailor Steve · 05-28-10, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones

You're wrong, SH5 SUX RULERS!

Of course I'm wrong. I'm always wrong.

I was a huge fan of detective Dietrich, played by Steve Landesberg, back on the old Barney Miller TV show. Whenever a difference of opinion came up he would launch into a brilliant explanation that couldn't be refuted. Then right when he had everybody hooked, he'd say "Of course I could be wrong." The expressions on the others' faces was priceles.

Jimbuna · 05-28-10, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Of course I'm wrong. I'm always wrong.

I was a huge fan of detective Dietrich, played by Steve Landesberg, back on the old Barney Miller TV show. Whenever a difference of opinion came up he would launch into a brilliant explanation that couldn't be refuted. Then right when he had everybody hooked, he'd say "Of course I could be wrong." The expressions on the others' faces was priceles.

Well in this particular instance I reckon your right.

I'm off to buy some popcorn because.....Of course I could be wrong

SteelViking · 05-28-10, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones

You're wrong, SH5 SUX RULERS!

I love frequenting the same thread as you JScones, it makes my life happier.

AVGWarhawk · 05-28-10, 02:35 PM

I like tater-tots.

IanC · 05-28-10, 04:46 PM

Well y'all bring up great points, but I just have one thing to say...
The most bestest subsim is clearly

Silent Hunter 5

*Insert an even bigger pointless screenshot that takes forever to load*

05-27-10, 11:36 PM	#139
kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	There's nothing stopping a campaign from running the whole war. The devs just didn't fill that part out. Players have the Mission Editor and can expand the campaign if they want. So saying that SH5 sucks because it doesn't have the whole war is really just being short sighted. When people talk about the end war in SH3, they sure aren't talking about the stock campaign. They are talking about a reworked modded campaign. The exact same thing you'll see with SH5. __________________

05-28-10, 01:55 AM	#140
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	^ ^ ^ ^ ^ As I said when people first complained about it. Any of the SH3 supermods, as wall as RSRDC for SH4, have completely reworked the campaign from the ground up. There is pretty much nothing left of the stock campaigns in SH3 or SH4 in any version anybody is playing. There is no reason SH5's won't be even better once people figure out how to adapt it to their desires. Actually I also said some time ago that that may be the reason SH5's campaign is unfinished. The devs knew that no matter how much work they put into it, it would be dumped at the first chance. As for there only being one class of u-boat, I imagine there is a huge amount of work to put everything in that has been put into this one boat. More can be added, and I hope they will. The real complaints about SH5 are the ones about the bugs that never got fixed from one generation to the next. I'm hoping that this will all be ironed out before they're done with it. We can only wait and see. Currently people are still playing SH3 and SH4 because those games are more complete, and SH5 still needs a lot of work. As I've also said before, there is every chance that when SH5 has had the time that the others have it really will put them to shame. Right now it won't let me play in a Type II, or play in the Pacific. So for now the older games are not "better", but they are more desirable for anyone who wants to play within that context. People should learn how to state their preferences and their opinions without condemnatory remarks such as "It sucks" and "It rules". SH5 doesn't rule yet, nor does it truly suck. People who are enjoying it are doing so because it fills their idea of what a subsim should be. Those who aren't play the older versions because for now those fill their idea of what a subsim should be. It is possible to discuss and even disagree without shouting and screaming about how you're right and anybody who doesn't agree is an idiot. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

05-28-10, 02:28 AM	#141
SteelViking The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: U.S.A.-East Coast Posts: 1,587 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 4	Nice post Sailor Stevet! I pretty much agree with you on all accounts. __________________ He sank 198,650 tons....who you ask?....Erich Topp, that's who!

05-28-10, 07:08 AM	#144
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,890 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	__________________ Back in the Day

05-28-10, 02:35 PM	#149
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,293 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I like tater-tots. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

05-28-10, 09:26 AM	#145
robbo180265 Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brighton, England.Party capital of the south Posts: 2,255 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	Excellent post Steve - sums up my thoughts on the whole thing too

05-28-10, 04:46 PM	#150
IanC Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Running silent and deep Posts: 902 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Well y'all bring up great points, but I just have one thing to say... The most bestest subsim is clearly Silent Hunter 5 Insert an even bigger pointless screenshot that takes forever to load