I WIll Be Sticking With SH5 - But Just Now The Love Is Not There

Krauter · 05-25-10, 12:32 PM

The only problem with totally ignoring the overall campaign objectives is that to get access to certain Campaigns (ie: Operation Drumbeat) you have to do so well in the preceeding campaign

Sailor Steve · 05-25-10, 12:49 PM

Don't worry, walsh. It will come. Lots of good modding and good times ahead, I think.

I have the same problem with SH4. SH3 is hard to get a lot of time compression on my PC, plus the necessity of changing the crew out every four hours makes me slow down and smell the salt air. SH4 TC works much better, so I have a tendence to rush all over the place looking for my next battle. I have to force myself to take my time.

I'm sure SH5 will improve with time. It's getting a lot more attention already than SH4 did.

scratch81 · 05-25-10, 12:59 PM

Haven't gotten terribly far in the campaign just yet, however, i feel it is my duty to the fatherland to sink any and all ships with a british flag, whether or not its in my mission objective. Its now january 1940 and still working on the blockade of Germany. my last patrol i got 2 of 5 amc, a battleship, 2 freighters, and a tanker. only the 2 amc's counted towards my objective, but im raking in tonnage everytime i leave port, which to me, is my ultimate objective.

kylania · 05-25-10, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Krauter

The only problem with totally ignoring the overall campaign objectives is that to get access to certain Campaigns (ie: Operation Drumbeat) you have to do so well in the preceeding campaign

Problem solved! Use this little tool to skip right to Operation Drumbeat!

Krauter · 05-25-10, 01:15 PM

Does that function also change the usage of submarines? I'd rather not start Drumbeat in a VIIA for example.

Also, the last time I used it, it appeared as if the game just showed that youwere in that particular campaign, but things such as upgrades, etc were not available

kylania · 05-25-10, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Krauter

Does that function also change the usage of submarines? I'd rather not start Drumbeat in a VIIA for example.

Also, the last time I used it, it appeared as if the game just showed that youwere in that particular campaign, but things such as upgrades, etc were not available

Not yet, but what you'd do is play to almost the end of Mare Nostrum, then before it expires just bump your save up to Operation Drumbeat.

JScones · 05-26-10, 02:55 AM

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jwilliams · 05-26-10, 03:14 AM

I've been playing the game the same as SH3, i just patrol the area that im told to and ignore the overall mission. Sinking anything that i come across.

Unfortuently i dont think im going to make it any further into the campaign (check my sig).

I play 100% realism and dead is dead. And it looks like im going to be dead very soon. Both electric engines are dead and theres not enough sea under me to lose the escorts pinging me.

I blame Nisgeis' U-boat Killer AI Mod for this situation.

Hope that i do manage to survive, But even if i dont. I had alot of fun.

Sailor Steve · 05-26-10, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones

PERFECT subject for the XBOX 360 exclusive SH6.

WHAT? No PS3 version?

Egan · 05-26-10, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

WHAT? No PS3 version?

Yeah. It's already been confirmed for the PS3. Different title, though: it will be called 'Crash Dive Bandicoot' instead.

JScones · 05-27-10, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

WHAT? No PS3 version?

Maybe a Wii Fit version, where you have to actually run on the balance board whenever you want to move around the boat.

You can hate the game, but get fit at the same time.

Faamecanic · 05-27-10, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Krauter

The only problem with totally ignoring the overall campaign objectives is that to get access to certain Campaigns (ie: Operation Drumbeat) you have to do so well in the preceeding campaign

This is the NUMBER 1 immersion destroyer for me as well.

Until this crap gets modded out....SH5 sits on my shelf collecting dust

elanaiba · 05-27-10, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Krauter

The only problem with totally ignoring the overall campaign objectives is that to get access to certain Campaigns (ie: Operation Drumbeat) you have to do so well in the preceeding campaign

We can argue a lot about this, and there's no definite answer.

But I don't remember Doenitz sending anybody but some chosen aces on the initial phase of Drumbeat.

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Originally Posted by walsh2509

I want the SH3 Campaign style , get a Grid to partol and there and back when you want and sink anything there and back and it counts.

There's clearly a presentation/communication problem here, and its noted.

In SH5 you don't have to do the mission objectives, and anything sunk COUNTS. It would probably have been better if all objectives were hidden.

Dowly · 05-27-10, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by elanaiba

It would probably have been better if all objectives were hidden.

Actually that's not such a bad idea. Have the player patrol around and once he's sunken certain amount of shipping in certain area he'd get a letter from Uncle Karl or the flotilla commander saying that you have achieved this and that and you show a great example for the younger kaleuns. Of course the letter would be the only thing that would be gotten. Sort of like hidden achievements or something like that.

Egan · 05-27-10, 12:23 PM

It's not even like the idea of objectives is that bad. I enjoyed the missions in SH4, particulary dropping people off or rescuing downed pilots. Like Elanaiba says it's maybe as much to do with presentation as anything else.

Personally, I never liked the idea of the renown system - it always seemed a cheesy way of saying 'score' to me. But what if special missions and so forth were tied to renown? If you are a famous enough skipper you might be picked by Bdu to enter a Harbour and sink a specific target,( Yeah, just like Prien,) It makes these special missions something different and special and makes working towards being trusted enough by Doenitz something important. Tie in access to new boats in the same way. In the campaign expansion for 43-45 (

) imagine being called into the flotilla office one day as a Renowned skipper and asked whether you would like to take command of a new type XXI...That would add something, would it not?

I think this would allow the best of both worlds - access to sensible and historically plausible special mission that may lead to tangible bonuses (Medals, promotion etc, ) and give a deeper 'gameplay' meaning to you long and dangerous patrols.

FWIW, I don't like missions in a sim of the 'sink x number of battleships' type regardless of whether they are optional or not. They don't feel right and spoil the immersion. But if the game had something like I outlined above I'd be very interested.

05-25-10, 12:49 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Don't worry, walsh. It will come. Lots of good modding and good times ahead, I think. I have the same problem with SH4. SH3 is hard to get a lot of time compression on my PC, plus the necessity of changing the crew out every four hours makes me slow down and smell the salt air. SH4 TC works much better, so I have a tendence to rush all over the place looking for my next battle. I have to force myself to take my time. I'm sure SH5 will improve with time. It's getting a lot more attention already than SH4 did. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

05-25-10, 12:59 PM	#3
scratch81 Soundman Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 142 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	Haven't gotten terribly far in the campaign just yet, however, i feel it is my duty to the fatherland to sink any and all ships with a british flag, whether or not its in my mission objective. Its now january 1940 and still working on the blockade of Germany. my last patrol i got 2 of 5 amc, a battleship, 2 freighters, and a tanker. only the 2 amc's counted towards my objective, but im raking in tonnage everytime i leave port, which to me, is my ultimate objective. __________________ [Eat at Bob's Brain Shack]

05-26-10, 03:14 AM	#8
jwilliams Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,013 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	I've been playing the game the same as SH3, i just patrol the area that im told to and ignore the overall mission. Sinking anything that i come across. Unfortuently i dont think im going to make it any further into the campaign (check my sig). I play 100% realism and dead is dead. And it looks like im going to be dead very soon. Both electric engines are dead and theres not enough sea under me to lose the escorts pinging me. I blame Nisgeis' U-boat Killer AI Mod for this situation. Hope that i do manage to survive, But even if i dont. I had alot of fun. __________________ Windows 7, 64bit. Phenom II 965BE (OC 4cores @ 3.8 Ghz). Radeon HD4870 (1gb gddr5). 6gb Ram.

05-27-10, 12:23 PM	#15
Egan Admiral Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	It's not even like the idea of objectives is that bad. I enjoyed the missions in SH4, particulary dropping people off or rescuing downed pilots. Like Elanaiba says it's maybe as much to do with presentation as anything else. Personally, I never liked the idea of the renown system - it always seemed a cheesy way of saying 'score' to me. But what if special missions and so forth were tied to renown? If you are a famous enough skipper you might be picked by Bdu to enter a Harbour and sink a specific target,( Yeah, just like Prien,) It makes these special missions something different and special and makes working towards being trusted enough by Doenitz something important. Tie in access to new boats in the same way. In the campaign expansion for 43-45 () imagine being called into the flotilla office one day as a Renowned skipper and asked whether you would like to take command of a new type XXI...That would add something, would it not? I think this would allow the best of both worlds - access to sensible and historically plausible special mission that may lead to tangible bonuses (Medals, promotion etc, ) and give a deeper 'gameplay' meaning to you long and dangerous patrols. FWIW, I don't like missions in a sim of the 'sink x number of battleships' type regardless of whether they are optional or not. They don't feel right and spoil the immersion. But if the game had something like I outlined above I'd be very interested.

05-26-10, 02:55 AM	#7
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	PERFECT subject for the XBOX 360 exclusive SH6.