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Old 05-17-10, 06:53 AM   #1
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Default Give me Harpoon 2011

The thing we need is a vista version (Win 7) of the best naval game ever, Harpoon. With today's graphic capabilities and that game mechanics, we'd have a winner.

I'm not talking about the Harpoon 3 version with all those silly rings and message boxes. I'm thinking of the first Windows version, actually just the DOS game ported to windows. Give us that in today's technologies!

For it's time, that game was top shelf. It had a great mission editor that was easy to use and made sense.
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Old 05-17-10, 07:04 AM   #2
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Probably the Harpoon 3 with all those "silly rings" is a lot closer to the reality of an Aegis system. However I do agree with you although Harpoon plays well & is a very deep experience the way it is a 3D visualization would be nice. And yes it definitely needs a new UI. Did you see the canceled Harpoon 4 which Ubi was working on there's some old reference to it at combatsim.com It was very close to being released when canceled.

Take a look at The Red Pill or Global Conflict Blue for modern indie versions of Harpoon
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Old 05-17-10, 08:52 AM   #3
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If there's gonna be 7 (somehow you skipped 6) then here is my suggestion: keep UBISoft away from it. Give it to Jane's or resurrect Microprose and commision them.
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Old 05-17-10, 08:59 AM   #4
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Janes themselves have never really been in the software business only their name and data from their books was licensed by EA to create 688i/Longbow etc. and I don't think that EA would touch sim games with a barge pole nowadays.

As for Microprose it is partially resurrected in "Wild" Bill Stealey's Thriller Publishing but they have their hands full at the moment with an M1 Tank Platoon remake and a completely new M4 Sherman sim. In truth they are probably using the old iM1A2 & iPanzer as templates and harnessing new graphics engines to them for the new games. On the "other side of the Microprose fence" at Firaxis Sid Meier seems to have sadly lost any interest in returning to the genre.
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Old 05-17-10, 09:13 AM   #5
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What I meant was "give it to Jane's to license and oversee the production" (poor choice of words, my bad). As far as Microprose goes: can you imagine u-boat simulation in depth of Falcon 4.0?

Oh well, back to reality from daydreaming....
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Old 05-17-10, 10:22 AM   #6
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Janes themselves have never really been in the software business only their name and data from their books was licensed by EA to create 688i/Longbow etc. and I don't think that EA would touch sim games with a barge pole nowadays.

As for Microprose it is partially resurrected in "Wild" Bill Stealey's Thriller Publishing but they have their hands full at the moment with an M1 Tank Platoon remake and a completely new M4 Sherman sim. In truth they are probably using the old iM1A2 & iPanzer as templates and harnessing new graphics engines to them for the new games. On the "other side of the Microprose fence" at Firaxis Sid Meier seems to have sadly lost any interest in returning to the genre.
After Sid Miers' "Railroads" fiasco from Firaxis, I hope he stays away from offering games altogether. There were tons of people who experienced his original "Railroad Tycoon" deeply disappointed by "Railroads". It played like a Disney cartoon with the trains way out of proportion with the scenery, the stock market was a joke, no ability to choose opponents, lots and lots of CTD's in game, and I'm just mentioning the high points. Essentially Railroads was just like the Ubisoft SH series in many ways.

It's a real shame PC game development has come to this state.
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Old 05-17-10, 02:43 PM   #7
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Janes themselves have never really been in the software business only their name and data from their books was licensed by EA to create 688i/Longbow etc. and I don't think that EA would touch sim games with a barge pole nowadays.

As for Microprose it is partially resurrected in "Wild" Bill Stealey's Thriller Publishing but they have their hands full at the moment with an M1 Tank Platoon remake and a completely new M4 Sherman sim. In truth they are probably using the old iM1A2 & iPanzer as templates and harnessing new graphics engines to them for the new games. On the "other side of the Microprose fence" at Firaxis Sid Meier seems to have sadly lost any interest in returning to the genre.

The first 'real' PC games I played were things like "Ace of Aces", some 'modern' tank sim I can't remember the name, "Wolfpack", "Red Baron" and online games like "Air Warrior".

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If there's gonna be 7 (somehow you skipped 6) then here is my suggestion: keep UBISoft away from it. Give it to Jane's or resurrect Microprose and commision them.

I do miss Microprose.
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I think it was officially titled "Railroads!"
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