How to find enemy subs

rein1705 · 05-09-10, 11:07 PM

So all that about pirate this and that ... whatever.... back to the question at hand here... where can you find and engage an enemy sub?

SH4 fan · 05-09-10, 11:11 PM

bump hulls is a good way!

I would think if they are surfaced either visual or sonar. Maybe radar too...

submerged only if they are cranking more than 100 rpm

Admiral8Q · 05-10-10, 01:59 AM

I suppose multiplayer would be the best way to go sub vs. sub.

Get a clean copy of SH4, it doesn't cost much.

fw66 · 05-10-10, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by rein1705

So all that about pirate this and that ... whatever.... back to the question at hand here... where can you find and engage an enemy sub?

You could add some to the campaign using the SH4 mission editor. However, I've tried to make missions in the past involving enemy subs and they've not been very successful.

As far as I remember, the stock game doesn't really let you do any damage to subs, I recall firing at a sen toku sub and watching it just bounce around in the water, taking no damage. Similar experiences using a u-boat against fleet boats.

This was some time ago, so that may have changed, but I think that's the situation at least in stock.

I have seen a mod in the downloads section which makes the sen toku destroyable, but haven't yet been able to try it.

peabody · 05-10-10, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by fw66

You could add some to the campaign using the SH4 mission editor. However, I've tried to make missions in the past involving enemy subs and they've not been very successful.

As far as I remember, the stock game doesn't really let you do any damage to subs, I recall firing at a sen toku sub and watching it just bounce around in the water, taking no damage. Similar experiences using a u-boat against fleet boats.

This was some time ago, so that may have changed, but I think that's the situation at least in stock.

I have seen a mod in the downloads section which makes the sen toku destroyable, but haven't yet been able to try it.

Subs have to be converted to ships in order for them to even move. Once you do that then you can use them in missions. They are in some of the mods.

Peabody

Krauter · 05-10-10, 05:32 AM

I believe they are included in campaign and some missions (though they are VERY rare.. you need to go out into the Indian ocean to find one) in TMO and or RSRDC for 1.4

fw66 · 05-10-10, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by peabody

Subs have to be converted to ships in order for them to even move. Once you do that then you can use them in missions. They are in some of the mods.

Peabody

Ah, that would explain things! Thanks for the info

Bilge_Rat · 05-10-10, 09:49 AM

enemy subs are in RSRDC. It even has single missions featuring sub v sub:

the problem is that they only act as surface ships, namely, they do not submerge or fire torpedoes.

SH5 has actual enemy subs that will fire torps at you and submerge.

fw66 · 05-10-10, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

the problem is that they only act as surface ships, namely, they do not submerge or fire torpedoes.

SH5 has actual enemy subs that will fire torps at you and submerge.

Do you think it is possible to convert the SH5 sub AI to SH4?

I would imagine it isn't, but you never know!

peabody · 05-10-10, 02:56 PM

Just an add on to the other comments. Since the AI subs are converted to ships, they will fire the deck gun at you if you are surfaced. And they are much more maneuverable than the big ships so they evade torpedoes easier. (unless the values have been Modded.)

We do have a submerged sub in the Japanese Campaign (if I can ever get it done) but it has a problem, the game thinks it is on the surface so DDs fire guns at it not DCs.

My old memory is not working so good.

But someone was working on a sub quite a while ago that would submerge and fire torps, but I never heard anymore about it. So I don't remember if it was ever finished, or if it was in a Super MOD.

Peabody

gorilca · 05-15-10, 06:07 PM

As per forum rules, i think we should all get banned. I mean we are doing something worst than pirates. We are flat out sinking any enemy ship we come across. At least pirates sometimes left the crew to leave on a life raft and took the ship.

And than someone just mentions a hint about "real" piracy and it's bye bye.

OK, sorry. Sarcasm off

Enemy subs... hmmm... where are you hiding little one?

peabody · 05-15-10, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gorilca

As per forum rules, i think we should all get banned. I mean we are doing something worst than pirates. We are flat out sinking any enemy ship we come across. At least pirates sometimes left the crew to leave on a life raft and took the ship.

And than someone just mentions a hint about "real" piracy and it's bye bye.

OK, sorry. Sarcasm off

Enemy subs... hmmm... where are you hiding little one?

Well, I don't know about you, but I didn't see him go bye,bye. Just explaining the situation so he won't go bye, bye.

Ok, sarcasm back on.

Now let me think where would a sub hide.....hmmmm....looked in all the trees.....looked up in the sky.......hmmmmm.....that's a tough one.

Peabody

gorilca · 05-15-10, 10:42 PM

hahaha

Ok but i think you missed some rocks...
I bet it's under there somewhere.

Admiral8Q · 05-17-10, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by peabody

Now let me think where would a sub hide.....hmmmm....looked in all the trees.....looked up in the sky.......hmmmmm.....that's a tough one.

Did you check in the couch?

rein1705 · 05-23-10, 03:14 PM

They heard U were coming and hid

05-09-10, 11:07 PM	#1
rein1705 Samurai Navy Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: somewhere in the Past. Posts: 582 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 0	back to the point So all that about pirate this and that ... whatever.... back to the question at hand here... where can you find and engage an enemy sub? __________________ "Diesel Pig" Not so long ago...

05-10-10, 01:59 AM	#3
Admiral8Q Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Prince Edward Island, Canada Posts: 1,077 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	I suppose multiplayer would be the best way to go sub vs. sub. Get a clean copy of SH4, it doesn't cost much. __________________

05-10-10, 09:49 AM	#8
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,856 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	enemy subs are in RSRDC. It even has single missions featuring sub v sub: the problem is that they only act as surface ships, namely, they do not submerge or fire torpedoes. SH5 has actual enemy subs that will fire torps at you and submerge. __________________

05-10-10, 02:56 PM	#10
peabody Admiral Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York State, USA Posts: 2,390 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 7	Just an add on to the other comments. Since the AI subs are converted to ships, they will fire the deck gun at you if you are surfaced. And they are much more maneuverable than the big ships so they evade torpedoes easier. (unless the values have been Modded.) We do have a submerged sub in the Japanese Campaign (if I can ever get it done) but it has a problem, the game thinks it is on the surface so DDs fire guns at it not DCs. My old memory is not working so good. But someone was working on a sub quite a while ago that would submerge and fire torps, but I never heard anymore about it. So I don't remember if it was ever finished, or if it was in a Super MOD. Peabody __________________ System Spec: Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3, PentiumD Dual Core Presler 945 3.4Ghz, Gigabyte Geforce 7600GS, 2-1GB Corsair XMS2 800Mhz in Dual Channel, 2-WD 250 SATA 3Gb/s, Onboard Realtek HD 7.1 Audio, DVD ROM, DVD burner, Hiper 580 Watt Power supply, WinXP SP2.

05-23-10, 03:14 PM	#15
rein1705 Samurai Navy Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: somewhere in the Past. Posts: 582 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 0	They heard U were coming and hid __________________ "Diesel Pig" Not so long ago...

05-09-10, 11:11 PM	#2
SH4 fan Mate Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 51 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	bump hulls is a good way! I would think if they are surfaced either visual or sonar. Maybe radar too... submerged only if they are cranking more than 100 rpm

05-15-10, 06:07 PM	#11
gorilca Swabbie Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	As per forum rules, i think we should all get banned. I mean we are doing something worst than pirates. We are flat out sinking any enemy ship we come across. At least pirates sometimes left the crew to leave on a life raft and took the ship. And than someone just mentions a hint about "real" piracy and it's bye bye. OK, sorry. Sarcasm off Enemy subs... hmmm... where are you hiding little one?

05-15-10, 10:42 PM	#13
gorilca Swabbie Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	hahaha Ok but i think you missed some rocks... I bet it's under there somewhere.